Shay Given

I didn't see that, good grief. I didn't speak too cleverley before though - it's back to 2-1 and Villa are pushing.

Indeed. If the decision to pick Guzan today was marginal, that margin has swung in Given's favour and then some.

You'd think so. I've never particularly rated Guzan, good a shot-stopper as he is.

Ireland's #1 in for Guzan. Bet Sherwood wishes he'd made that call sooner.

Guzan was one of Villa's best players over the last couple of years but he hasn't been so hot in recent months. So I wouldn't underrate him, but he deserves to be dropped.

Looks like Given was at fault for Everton's second this afternoon.

Bring back Guzan!

He wasn't really. Looks to me like he got fouled, should've been a free out. He did well throughout actually.

Keeps his place v West Ham. Good to see.

Played very assuredly according to SSN but Kevin Davies was causing him a lot of grief, standing in front of him at corners. Given lucky not to be penalised in one incident.

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Played very assuredly according to SSN but Kevin Davies was causing him a lot of grief, standing in front of him at corners. Given lucky not to be penalised in one incident.

Jesus, did the stewards not do anything? Why? Did Preston not have a game at the same time? What's his problem?

Sorry, meant Kevin Nolan!

Anyway, having seen it on TV it looked like Shay allowed himself to get too pre-occupied with Nolan instead of focusing on the flight of the ball. Nolan did little wrong in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Sorry, meant Kevin Nolan!

Anyway, having seen it on TV it looked like Shay allowed himself to get too pre-occupied with Nolan instead of focusing on the flight of the ball. Nolan did little wrong in my opinion.

looks like something the opposition managers have decided to target. didn't he have a very similar issue in the previous game?

that said, 3 wins i think for villa in a row with given starting? he has effectively reclaimed the #1 jersey. can only be good for ireland and to be fair he holds the shirt now for us aswell.

http://www.villatalk.com/index.php/t...thread/page-51

Villa fans on the warpath.

Haha as if Guzan would have saved Long's second. Complaints about him not being commanding in the air are valid, as they have been for a decade, but blaming the goalkeeper when your entire team, including "world class" Captain Vlaar, goes to **** is a bit stupid.

Captain Vlarr was Picards mortal enemy.

Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks

http://www.villatalk.com/index.php/t...thread/page-51

Villa fans on the warpath.

Ahhh please, don't bring that forum in here would ye? Villa fans are permanently on the warpath over there and, more than that, its level of analysis makes OWC look like the Greek enlightenment.

I wonder what they would make of some of the recent threads/posts on this forum...

I don't give a flying monkeys about Northern Ireland fans. You can't paint everyone with the same brush. I am sure there are plenty of daft people there. I am sure there are plenty of people who aren't so daft when they aren't having p*ssing matches over player eligibility with Irish fans. I am sure there are plenty of people who don't get bogged down by that stuff and would rather talk about on the field issues.

As it is, VillaTalk is the main Aston Villa forum, and I thought it would be interesting to share their views on Given's recent performances, seeing as they actually watch the players week in and week out. I never said I shared their opinions, so don't deflect this on to me.

Foot.ie isn't a utopia! You can share anything as long as it is on topic and tasteful.

Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks

I wonder what they would make of some of the recent threads/posts on this forum...

I don't give a flying monkeys about Northern Ireland fans. You can't paint everyone with the same brush. I am sure there are plenty of daft people there. I am sure there are plenty of people who aren't so daft when they aren't having p*ssing matches over player eligibility with Irish fans. I am sure there are plenty of people who don't get bogged down by that stuff and would rather talk about on the field issues.

As it is, VillaTalk is the main Aston Villa forum, and I thought it would be interesting to share their views on Given's recent performances, seeing as they actually watch the players week in and week out. I never said I shared their opinions, so don't deflect this on to me.

Foot.ie isn't a utopia! You can share anything as long as it is on topic and tasteful.

Relax

Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks

I wonder what they would make of some of the recent threads/posts on this forum...

I don't give a flying monkeys about Northern Ireland fans. You can't paint everyone with the same brush. I am sure there are plenty of daft people there. I am sure there are plenty of people who aren't so daft when they aren't having p*ssing matches over player eligibility with Irish fans. I am sure there are plenty of people who don't get bogged down by that stuff and would rather talk about on the field issues.

As it is, VillaTalk is the main Aston Villa forum, and I thought it would be interesting to share their views on Given's recent performances, seeing as they actually watch the players week in and week out. I never said I shared their opinions, so don't deflect this on to me.

Foot.ie isn't a utopia! You can share anything as long as it is on topic and tasteful.

Chill down TOWHULK - I wasn't haven't a go, I didn't say you couldn't share it (I did say 'please' and then explained why) and I wasn't saying it wasn't a valid post. I'm just offering my view on the quality of VillaTalk's posting in general as a self-loathing semi-regular.

Of course the views of Villa fans are of interest, just adding my opinion on the source of those views.

I understand the irony of posting on an internet football forum about the varying qualities about other internet football forums, but I don't mind saying the quality of debate and moderation around these parts is far, far, far better than Villa Talk or OWC.

So - what Joe Denilson said.