Shay Given

[seanfhear]

Would Man City loan a player of Shay Given's ability to one of their major rivals. (I have me doubts)

If Hart has a stormer for England or even a good game the presssure will be on Mancini to have Hart as the city no 1.

He will feel the pressure to keep the english media off his back.

Unless Hart performs badly for England or city this could be a tricky situation for Shay and as I have already said would city sell or loan Shay to one of their rivals ? ?

[Charlie Darwin]

I don't think Hart is good enough to keep Given out of the team.

[elroy]

Given should remain no 1 this season, of that there is no doubt. However, the British media are alll going to see Hart as their new number one and will apply to pressure to Mancini to put him in. A number of posters on the english forums are in preference to Shay over Hart, but have criticised Shay's distribution, cant say I ever that it was below standard.

[Charlie Darwin]

It was years ago but he worked on it. Can't quite believe how anybody could criticise Shay's distribution and ignore Hart's.

[strangeirish]

Given dropped for the opener. He won't like that.

[Sullivinho]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...EXCLUSIVE.html

Unless Mancini is planning some ridiculous goalkeeping rotation policy, Shay is now effectively a reserve. Demoted for no good reason other than being in competition with England's heir apparent. An absolutley untenable position for a player of his ability and a person of his character. I wouldn't be surprised if he's composing a transfer request as we speak.

[Charlie Darwin]

I hope Wenger goes for him. He's far too good a goalkeeper to be second choice anywhere.

[Sullivinho]

I'd love to think Wenger rates him. It'd be great to see him at a club like Arsenal, possibly seeing out his career there.

[Maroon 7]

Can't see Shay standing for that. As he said himself he needs to play. Can only imagine he'll ask to move. What odds Celtic will make a move to take him on loan? They need a keeper since Boruc has left.

Maybe Wenger will make a move but he's had the chance in the past to do so and hasn't. Plus would City send Given to a contender for Champions League places? Doubtful.

[Charlie Darwin]

The Mirror is saying exactly that:

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news...cle554105.html


Not sure Celtic could afford Given and Bellamy's wages though.

[Charlie Darwin]

Very surprising comment on an Arsenal blog I just read:

• 1. Jaygooner | August 10th, 2010 at 12:39 am
  The Given story seems to be gathering pace, particularly as Shay isn’t “locked ” into any deal with Man City, courtesy of our old friend Mark “shake my hand” Hughes. Given can actually walk any time he likes, if Wenger wants to fund his contract buy out he would be cheaper than Schwarzer. Given wants the Number One Jersey at City, so my guess is it depends on who Mancini picks for City;s first Premier game, It would be a wonderful outcome if Hart starts and Shay says “ok i’m off” but alas Mancini will play Given until the transfer window closes, then move Hart into the Number ! slot/ January at the earliest if Given decides to come to Arsenal. Pity. Wenger should have snapped him up during the Newcastle meltdown. Opporttunity missed/

I can't say if the guy is right or not, because I don't know, but this could be interesting.

[geysir]

Trap has urged caution but that's not Shay when it comes to sitting on a bench.
What is Shay's City contract worth?
The transfer fee of £6m, minus time served?

[Razors left peg]

Hes on the bench today. Big mistake by Mancini in my opinion

[Noelys Guitar]

No chance of Given going to Arsenal (Wenger could have bought him loads of times and has never made a bid). And going to Celtic for a keeper in his prime would be a huge step back. Fulham and the manager who bought him for City Mark Hughes is the obvious destination.

[Ciaran W]

Hes the best goalie in the world so why would you want hart in his place

[superfrank]

Have you see the Man City game today?

Hart's having a cracker so far.

[rebelmusic]

Aye he's playing a blinder. Shay to Arsenal!

[Razors left peg]

Have you see the Man City game today?

Hart's having a cracker so far.

he is, but I dont think hes made a save that Shay wouldnt have

[Closed Account]

Shay would of played just as well today!

In fairness, Hart has done everything asked of him. Whats going to **** me off tomorrow is that Harts performance will somehow justify peoples criticism of Given over the years, i.e, doesn't come for crosses, can't organise a defence etc. All myths, I've never heard anybody who's opinion I respect, i.e an ex goalkeeper ever criticise Given for anything. Givens club career will have little or no affect on his Irish performances, the professional that he is, so nobody should be too worried if he's playing for Man City or not. I'd like to see him at Arsenal though for his own personal ambitions.

Edit: Man City's defence has been just as shambolic today as its ever been post Dunne, but Hart won't get the scrutiny in the English media that Shay has until he inevitably messes up when he 3 lions on his shirt.

[gaiscíoch]

Sky sports creaming themselves over Harte.

As has been said above Shay would have made all the saves Joe Hart has and he wouldn't have punched the ball straight out to Huddlestone then have to scramble for the save.

It's a marathon not a sprint and as has often been said by greater men than me.
It's all well and good for a keeper when he is busy because it's easier to concentrate. His big test will come when he has nothing to do and has to pull off big saves.
Something Shay will do in my opinion.