QuoteFrom http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?pa...newsid=6629273huh?Shay told Channel 5 afterwards, "I hadn't been in a shoot-out before, so anything to help me out was always going to be a bonus
Maybe he meant at club level?
Maybe he can eat into some of next years quota, just to be covered til the year endOriginally Posted by geysir
Havin a weekend away is quite frankly,lettin ur team mates down!
From http://www.mcfc.co.uk/default.sps?pa...newsid=6629273huh?Shay told Channel 5 afterwards, "I hadn't been in a shoot-out before, so anything to help me out was always going to be a bonus
Maybe he meant at club level?
Funny, when I was watching it live on Five, I thought Shay said "they had never been in a shoot out before" as he was refering to the fact that the City Video guy only had one penalty on his PC that Aalborg had got this season. Shay went to him immediately after the final whistle to watch whatever penalties they had taken before to get some info, but Aalborg only had received one penalty this season.
Ugh, this just brings back bad memories of Korea. If only McCarthy of the backroom staff had been arsed having a video guy it might have made some difference. "Penalties are a lottery" is a massive, massive load of bull.
Maybe Shay has that iPod now.
I dunno, he's a very good ball striker - he'd prob be in my top 5 for Ireland.
its not a lotto but there are a lot more factors that go into it than just walking up practising penalty kicks.
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
really?
So what exactly would a video reveal of a player who doesn't take penalties, as most participants in a shoot-out aren't first choice takers?
Just cos a guy went right one time doesn't mean he'll go right again.
I think video analysis only works for regular first choice takers, differentiating between pressure kicks, non pressure kicks etc. I'd actually fancy that Gerrard or Lamopard may be susceptible to video scrutiny. Our own Robbie is as cool as you like from the spot and all a video would prove is that he's bloody good!
Didn't notice the pun!
Yep, I'd be happy to have Dunne be in our 5. Experience and powerful ball striking are important. Dunne only has to tap a ball and it'd travel at 5 times the speed I could ever kick it. I'm a bit geekish during warm ups etc - I always look out for who's a confident ball striker.
In fairness this idea of looking at pens on an ipod etc before they start is only a new thing really and probably will have died down again in a while. The value of it is uncertain really.
Having said that there was an interesting point on sky last week, in relation to gerrards pens. The last five pens is has gone left, then right, left then right......you get the drift.
I agree, Fernando Hierro was always a good spot kick taker
If it's not a lottery, how do you account for Given going the wrong way for all 5 in Korea? All because no body had a video of the Spanish? Just an excuse to have a dig at Mick I suspect.We beat Romania without a video. Goalkeeper has to guess the right way and penalty taker has to hit it hard enough to beat him if he does or not hit it wide.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Plus the best pen takers often switch sides, depending on how they feel at the time. Video means arse all.If it's not a lottery, how do you account for Given going the wrong way for all 5 in Korea? All because no body had a video of the Spanish? Just an excuse to have a dig at Mick I suspect.
Are we venturing down to the play off penalty shoot out scenario?
Arrgh.
Nothing could prepare me for that, my stomach still churns at the thought of the shootout in Korea.
Only the sight of the ball hitting the back of the net (when it´s our turn) has a temporary calming influence on me.
I´d hope KK would stay well to the back of the penalty takers queue.
We have 5 candidates at least, Keane, Doyle, Hunt on for Duff in extra timeMcGeady and Dunne.
I would only fancy Keane to convert from that list.Are we venturing down to the play off penalty shoot out scenario?
Arrgh.
Nothing could prepare me for that, my stomach still churns at the thought of the shootout in Korea.
Only the sight of the ball hitting the back of the net (when it´s our turn) has a temporary calming influence on me.
I´d hope KK would stay well to the back of the penalty takers queue.
We have 5 candidates at least, Keane, Doyle, Hunt on for Duff in extra time
I think he hit the bar at Wembley against England in '96I was there.
I remember his kick because as a goalie at the time I struggled to get the ball airborne into the other half of the pitch from a goal kick. Hierro's kick hit the bar and landed - no messing - back in the far half of the pitch. I felt very inadequate!
You're obviously one of the classic Irish perennial pessimists.
I'd have reservations about Doyle, he's been patchy from the spot. In fairness to KK he has taken penalties since Suwon and has been emphatic.
I'd have Whelan & Andrews taking penalties - again, both are very confident and solid ball strikers. I'd have Shay somewhere between 6 and 11, I wouldn't leave him until last.
Do you not think that the keeper they are facing might be a factor to consider?
Le monde est a nous
No, not at all. If Ireland went to pens in a major game, regardless of who was in goals, I'd look at who we sent up for each pen, and in my own mind, based on their ability technically and their temperament and maybe what kind of game they had, I'd say to myself ' I think he'll score, or not'.
It's what I did in 2002 against the Spanish, and sure enough, we missed or they were saved. So, if those lads went up one by one in a play-off situation, I'd only really fancy Robbie.
But I'd be praying to God and Sunny Jesus that they all scored!
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