Shay Given

**jbyrne** · 30/07/2010, 3:04 PM

Originally Posted by Junior

"Joe Hart will be first-choice goalkeeper for the next 10 years for England," said the Italian coach.

hardly anything to write home about at the moment

**Charlie Darwin** · 01/08/2010, 1:46 AM

Hmm. Just conceded a long-range goal against Inter where he reached out with the wrong arm - he should have used his left, the one he dislocated the shoulder on.

**tricky_colour** · 01/08/2010, 2:30 AM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Hmm. Just conceded a long-range goal against Inter where he reached out with the wrong arm - he should have used his left, the one he dislocated the shoulder on.

You mean this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3ng4VkJ2ks

He would need to have his arm pulled a yard out of it's socket to get to that one.
I don't' think any keeper in the world would have saved that.

He doesn't look to clever in this one but there is not much you can do when it takes a deflection like that. He had to try to cut out the cross

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSkXrBWMEvg

**Charlie Darwin** · 01/08/2010, 7:15 AM

Well I don't blame him for not getting it, just that he led with the wrong arm. Suggests he may not be fully comfortable yet.

**Stuttgart88** · 01/08/2010, 11:38 AM

He has a bit of a habit of that. Henry's goal in Dublin and a few other occasions I can think of at club level.

**elroy** · 01/08/2010, 12:57 PM

Christ that was one hell of a strike, No keeper wouldve saved that. Hart considering a loan move again according to todays paper, good news.

**Stuttgart88** · 01/08/2010, 4:12 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Well I don't blame him for not getting it, just that he led with the wrong arm. Suggests he may not be fully comfortable yet.

I just watched the clip fotr the first time - I dion't think he did lead with the wrong arm. His "top" hand might have got high enough, but wouldn't have got across enough. Great shot, Given blameless. I wouldn't fault him for the second either - he was committed to cutting out the cross. Shades of Mendietta again...

**seanfhear** · 01/08/2010, 4:59 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I just watched the clip fotr the first time - I dion't think he did lead with the wrong arm. His "top" hand might have got high enough, but wouldn't have got across enough. Great shot, Given blameless.

I concur !

**Charlie Darwin** · 04/08/2010, 2:03 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I just watched the clip fotr the first time - I dion't think he did lead with the wrong arm. His "top" hand might have got high enough, but wouldn't have got across enough. Great shot, Given blameless. I wouldn't fault him for the second either - he was committed to cutting out the cross. Shades of Mendietta again...

Yeah, I saw it a few more times on the re-broadcast last night and changed my mind. Ball was going too fast to bring his arm around, and too well-placed.

**Den Perry** · 06/08/2010, 12:35 PM

I didn't think Harte covered himself in glory for the first goal.....

**Stuttgart88** · 09/08/2010, 8:50 AM

Exclusive from the Mirror

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news...cle547905.html

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger will ask Manchester City to give him keeper Shay Given - after being warned off his team-mate Joe Hart.

Hart looks set for an incredible week for both club and country with managers Roberto Mancini and Fabio Capello ready to make him their first choice for City and England.

Wenger is desperate for a new number one and his sights are now on City where Republic of Ireland ace Given is facing life on the bench.

Given would leap at the chance of joining the Gunners, probably on loan, if Wenger gets the nod from ambitious City.

Was Joe Hart really that good on loan at Brum last year?

**tetsujin1979** · 09/08/2010, 9:36 AM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Given would leap at the chance of joining the Gunners, probably on loan, if Wenger gets the nod from ambitious City.

Even if he would, letting Given go right now would leave City with Stuart Taylor and Gunnar Nielsen (from the Faroe Islands) as their replacement goalkeepers. Which isn't going to happen. City would sign another keeper before letting Given leave.

**Den Perry** · 09/08/2010, 9:50 AM

How can Mancini justify dropping Given?

**irishultra** · 09/08/2010, 11:50 AM

well he does happen to be like the manager so he kinda has got to see how each is performing in training and he obviously feels hart warrants a place in starting line up. birmingham had an unbel defence last year which he was a huge part of. sadly shay(one of my fave players) is not seen in the same light and will have to move on as we can't have our best player sitting on the bench in the prime of his career.

**rebelmusic** · 09/08/2010, 12:04 PM

If this is true, and shay goes to arsenal i'd be delighted. Champions league, and not dealing with that club of madness.

**Crosby87** · 09/08/2010, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by irishultra

will have to move on as we can't have our best player sitting on the bench in the prime of his career.

In fairness, is Shay in his prime or coming out of it? He's no spring chicken anymore, coming off an injury. I hope he plays until he is 50 but we have to be realistic. He might not have many "Prime of his career" years left actually.

**Predator** · 09/08/2010, 12:39 PM

I can't imagine that Shay will be content to sit on the bench. I wonder will he fight it out or seek a move elsewhere?

**tetsujin1979** · 09/08/2010, 12:40 PM

according to this article in the Independent - http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...t-2047215.html - it appears to be Given as first choice

The Italian suggested he "has an idea" which, of Joe Hart and Given, is his first-choice keeper – it appears to be Given – so another Englishman may be unhappy.

**Charlie Darwin** · 09/08/2010, 1:47 PM

Every different newspaper seems to have an exclusive source that's told them one of the two keepers is definitely first choice. Mancini probably hasn't made up his mind yet, but Hart is probably still ahead despite his unimpressive form.