Irish Drugs Cheat

**Ruairi** · 09/08/2004, 4:25 PM

Originally Posted by pete

I'd guess that Lombard has received some sort of state assistance for his trainng & preparation for the Olympics? Could be case to suggest he be expected to repay those monies...?

He was allocated an Irish Sports Council elite athlete training grant..

**liamon** · 09/08/2004, 4:48 PM

So now we're meant to feel sorry for someone who was caught cheating?
Someone who was setting a terrible example for young kids?
Oh, that's right, he had an excuse. ~ Everyone else was doing it, so.....
When I was growing up, my parents never accpeted that as an excuse. I don't see why I should now. And I don't see why anyone else on this message board can accept it.

Crucifixion!
Line on the left, one cross each.

**Peadar** · 09/08/2004, 4:55 PM

Originally Posted by liamon

Someone who was setting a terrible example for young kids?

You're right Liam, all the kids on my road are downing EPO like is was sherbet!
Here's a t-shirt to explain it all to you Liam.
That's what it's all about...

**liamon** · 10/08/2004, 8:20 AM

C,mon Peader,
you know that kids will emulate their sporting idols. I don't expect 10 year olds to be pumping steroids, but I certainly do see the possibility of teenage athletes trying to source EPO, etc to try and match their "hero".

**ccfcman** · 10/08/2004, 8:37 AM

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**Macy** · 10/08/2004, 9:05 AM

Originally Posted by liamon

So now we're meant to feel sorry for someone who was caught cheating?
Someone who was setting a terrible example for young kids?
Oh, that's right, he had an excuse. ~ Everyone else was doing it, so.....
When I was growing up, my parents never accpeted that as an excuse. I don't see why I should now. And I don't see why anyone else on this message board can accept it.

Crucifixion!
Line on the left, one cross each.

Don't necessarily feel sorry for him, but don't think he should be lambasted for it either. It's the nature of competitive sport.

Whats your feelings on Colin Farrell? As he pumps himself full of drink, drugs and smokes, and then boasts about in interviews (and appears on the late late in some state)...

My petest of pet hates is the "think of the children" arguement.

**Peadar** · 10/08/2004, 9:33 AM

Originally Posted by liamon

to try and match their "hero".

At the risk of sounding foolish here, I'd never heard of this guy before.
Was he really a hero to anyone outside his immediate family?
I think coaches have more influence on atheletes than other atheletes.
I personally find it a bit odd the number who marry their coaches.
Michelle Smith, Sonia O'Sullivan, Paula Radcliffe...

**max power** · 10/08/2004, 9:39 AM

should this thread not read, cork drugs cheat

**Ruairi** · 10/08/2004, 9:40 AM

Cork not in ireland these days max?

**liamon** · 10/08/2004, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Macy

Don't necessarily feel sorry for him, but don't think he should be lambasted for it either. It's the nature of competitive sport.:

So it's ok then?

Originally Posted by Macy

Whats your feelings on Colin Farrell? ...

He's a l@nger.

I give up.
Everyone, go pump yourselves ful of EPO, nandrolone, growth hormone, etc. If it makes you competitive, then it's ok.

**Macy** · 10/08/2004, 1:15 PM

Originally Posted by liamon

So it's ok then?

He's a l@nger.

I give up.
Everyone, go pump yourselves ful of EPO, nandrolone, growth hormone, etc. If it makes you competitive, then it's ok.

No it's not okay, but it's perfectly understandable if the vast majority of cheats get away with it, thus making clean athletes uncompetitive, that people get tempted. Some fall for that temptation, some don't, but it doesn't make those that fall for the temptation the anti-christ.

**Peadar** · 10/08/2004, 1:26 PM

Originally Posted by liamon

Everyone, go pump yourselves ful of EPO, nandrolone, growth hormone, etc. If it makes you competitive, then it's ok.

We've already done that. Why do you think we're so competitive in this discussion and able to beat you

**wws** · 10/08/2004, 2:39 PM

The rebel army should be tested. If one Cork man can evade the authorities for so long theres bound to me more. How else can you explain O Flynns Blue boots??? Blue and Green should never be seen. The mans on drugs

**Peadar** · 10/08/2004, 2:43 PM

Originally Posted by wws

If one Cork man can evade the authorities for so long theres bound to me more.

That's not strictly true.
The jackeens in customs grassed him up so technically he didn't "evade the authorities."

Taken from BreakingNews.ie
Tip-offs from Irish Customs and the Irish Medicines Board may have alerted the Irish Sports Council to disgraced Cork athlete Cathal Lombard’s use of the performance-enhancing drug EPO.

It emerged today that both organisations may have passed on information to the Irish Sports Council (ISC) about a delivery that was made to the 28-year-old Cork runner.

**liamon** · 10/08/2004, 2:55 PM

Originally Posted by Macy

No it's not okay, ...

OK, that's all I wanted to hear. He was in the wrong.

Originally Posted by Macy

[I] don't think he should be lambasted for it ...

So, you admit he was in the worng, but don't understand why I would criticise him? I'm just a poor simple country lad, but I think we've got a decent enough reason to criticise him.
I'm not calling for a public flogging or any such thing.

**Macy** · 10/08/2004, 3:02 PM

Originally Posted by liamon

So, you admit he was in the worng, but don't understand why I would criticise him? I'm just a poor simple country lad, but I think we've got a decent enough reason to criticise him.
I'm not calling for a public flogging or any such thing.

Public Flogging would be preferable to the "example"/"think of the children" arguement....

He's wrong, but how disgraceful his behaviour is is only relative to any misconceptions on how clean you think competitive sport is.

**tiktok** · 10/08/2004, 3:31 PM

Originally Posted by Macy

.....how disgraceful his behaviour is is only relative to any misconceptions on how clean you think competitive sport is....

Hardly an excuse Macy, flashback to 1982 and my mom bamboozling me with the comeback...
"...and i suppose if they all jumped off a cliff you'd want to do that too"

I can understand the temptation he would have felt but the critiscism is fair.

**Macy** · 10/08/2004, 3:33 PM

Originally Posted by tiktok

Hardly an excuse Macy, flashback to 1982 and my mom bamboozling me with the comeback...
"...and i suppose if they all jumped off a cliff you'd want to do that too"

But I bet you fell for the "it's not the winning, it's the taking part" bullshít as well