giant irish flag

[observer]

Remember when this was a football forum ?

[Lux Interior]

place called prospect design in dublin make them (flags)
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Hmmmmn, I'm after a giant, similarly sized Union Flag for the match, at a decent price.

Might give them a call

[the 12 th man]

Hmmmmn, I'm after a giant, similarly sized Union Flag for the match, at a decent price.

Might give them a call

and why not ?.i'm sure they would be delighted with the business

[Macy]

Ummm, hate to point out the obvious, but he didn't ('give us our independence', not 'go to London'...). He himself knew that, he described it as a 'stepping stone' to independence. Let's not rewrite history on Foot.ie, Patrick!!

Interesting article in the Sunday Times lately about the essay Collins wrote as a teenager on the great achievements of the British Empire. I know he was applying for a job in the British Civil Service and accept we've all said and done things to get a job, but we don't end up negotiating the future of our country with those same employers later...ah, the irony....

The irony of Dev bottling out of going himself, sending someone else over to get the best deal they could, and then starting a Civil War over an Oath. Sure at least he was happy to wade through the blood of Irishmen, whilst not accepting their democratic decision.

[Macy]

Is your argument 'Collins did crap, but Dev was crap too'?

No - Collins was a hero, Dev was a w@nker. That's my in depth analysis of the situation.

[Macy]

Aha, mine is Collins was a w@nker, Dev was a politican...

Collins went to war with the Brits, Dev went to war with the Irish.

[Macy]

That's just a soundbite. Collins died for the Commonwealth, the Free State, the side that used British guns on the Irish at the Four Courts. You may like to change that, but you can't.

de Valera didn't even go to war, think you'll find that O'Connor, Mellowes, Brugha et al. led the cause for the Republicans and they had little but contempt for de Valera.

He didn't have to stay with the side that ignored the will of the irish people (twice), and who then occupied the Four Courts.

[Macy]

Is dissent not allowed? Are you a big fan of FF and the PDs because it's the will of the people that they govern? Do we ignore the North because it is the will of the people there to remain part of the United Kingdom?

We protest, beat them politically, not make speeches about wading through the blood of irishman, not occupy buildings using force etc against the will of of the majority.

Just because I hate the FF/PD Government, the irish people were thick enough to vote for them, and I ain't going to occupy the 4 Courts in an attempted Coup...

[Ringo]

the flag costed, wait for it €50 !!!!!

hope you bought in Carrolls

http://www.buy4now.ie/carrolls/produ...c=P&catid=10.2

[liam88]

Calm it lads
Well we all know Irish history ain't black and white-one day we will see a 32 county united Erin and all those brave men including Collins will be to thank for it

I reckon if we see Mr. Plastic Paddy around here again soon he can put that Irish political history Ma. to a good use
Mabye his boss caught on a limited his use of the forum...........

[liam88]

Fair play to you Liam. Have a lot of time for you as a member of this site. You have a great sense of humour and common sense to go with it. Wish everyone else, myself included, could be more like you.

Aw cheers mate-I love this site, meet so many class guys on here, yourself included
If your ever in London we'll have to meet up for a drink (though mine'll just be a Red Bull ) and ya can meet all the foot.ie exiles
I'll see you good for a pint as well-though I already owed one to PP for about 6 months now

[liam88]

He's very good looking too, and suave...

What's that meant to mean Conor? Don't ya like me or summit?
Patrick say's what he thinks-where's the harm in that-he's a nice guy!
And now ya mention it I am darn good lookin' cheers

[liam88]

Naaaa, just thought Patrick was kissing your ass and decided to add to the flattery...

As far as I can see Patrick wasn't Pougin' ma Thoin-he doesn't need to, he was saying what he thought and fair play to him

If ya want to 'add to the flattery' as you say then fair enough but Mr. Eoinh already made his move......

well hi there Liam 88. wanta PM me? Im m/s/35!

The only way you could have found out how good looking I was would have been by the exiles meet up pics but unfortunatley (for ya) I had to take them down because a couple of ma very reliable source's (ya know who you are) informed me that the UDA boys at Our Wee Minds were onto me

Aw well.....they'll be back soon and here's to the next one-hopefully Patrick will be able to join us

How about your good self coming along for a drink Conor?

[eoinh]

Aye he was-I read his biography/autobiography (it had his quotes/diary entries in) and it's all in there. He was in the GPO!

I doubt if you read his autobiography. How the hell could he write about his assination?

[liam88]

I doubt if you read his autobiography. How the hell could he write about his assination?

Sorry didn't make that clear enough. It is a biography but semi-autobiogrphical because a lot of it is made up of quotes a diary extracts (obviously not the bit's about his assasination/murder)