2012 attendances

[El-Pietro]

The drop in 1st Division averages can be put down to some concrete factors - 1. continued economic doom and gloom, 2. Lack of "name" clubs with good following, 3. Lopsided nature of team numbers and matches, 4. Belief from before the season that it was going to be a 1 team league.

It does give a little bit of credence to a single league set up, lots of those 1st Division clubs would get bumper crowds and the benefits related to this. But then, what else will be done?

Athlone - 283 - 200 increase
Harps - 419 - 433 decrease
Limerick - 673 - 569 increase
Longford - 372 - 315 decrease
Mervue - 247 - 349 decrease
SD Galway - 189 - 125 increase
Waterford - 447 - 466 increase
Wexford - 320 - 216 increase

total 368 - 334

Don't jump to assumptions without first reviewing the evidence. Crowds for the first division clubs are up this year. Averages are down, because Cork Citys 2,128 and Shelbourne 781 were considerably higher than the average and brought the division as a whole up, Monaghans was 372 which is flaoting right about the average and wouldn't impact it in any major way. Cork City alone had more than 6 times the average of the 8 remaining clubs last year.

If we were to add City, Shels and Mons attendances from last year to this years first division the average jumps from 368 --> 566 (585 without Mons) which is slightly above last years first division average.

The drop in the first (and increase in the Premier) is almost entirely down to the fact that City and Shels were promoted. Which is why when Delaney and pals talk about the increase they are more full of **** than usual.

[shellyriver]

strange that on setanta the derry fans seemed louder than sligos at times!

That's because away section is directly beneath gantry.

[nigel-harps1954]

Averages after week 27.

PREMIER DIVISION

Bohs - 1488 (2011 - 1,488; 2010- 1,835; 2009 - 2,366; 2008 - 1,993; 2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976)
Bray - 929 (1,121; 952; 1,169; 1,106; 1,200; 1,027; 1,550)
Cork - 2764 (2,128 FD; 1,693 FD; 2,681; 3,142; 2,897; 2,941; 3,644)
Derry - 1492 (2,135; 1,965 FD; 2,436; 3,363; 2,614; 3,229; 2,698)
Drogheda - 987 (811; 859; 1,106; 1,631; 1,919; 1,751; 1,682)
Dundalk - 1037 (1,355; 1,877; 2,371; 1,459 FD; 1,406 FD; 1,078 FD; 474 FD)
Pat's - 1543 (1,346; 1,756; 1,631; 1,795; 1,910; 1,342; 1,599)
Rovers - 3277 (3,779; 3,794; 3,611; 1,468; 1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539)
Shels - 1200 (781 FD; 737 FD; 972 FD; 986 FD; 888 FD; 1,690; 1,949)
Sligo - 2600 (2,103; 1,807; 1,756; 1,960; 1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD)
UCD - 521 (558; 610; 272 FD; 546; 663; 546; 653; 306 FD)

FIRST DIVISION

Athlone - 283 (200; 354; 462; 387; 670; 421; 316)
Harps - 429 (433; 644; 480; 1,607 PD; 1,164; 428; 1,347 PD; 1,106) -
Limerick - 677 (569; 598; 429; 517; 670; 364; 669)
Longford - 372 (315; 230; 260; 406; 885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD) Missing SD Galway 29th Sep.
Mervue - 242 (349; 123; 166)
SD Galway - 189 (125; 122 - As Salthill Devon FC)
Waterford - 447 (466; 619; 434; 670; 1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD)
Wexford - 320 (216; 343; 494; 767; 810)

PREMIER AVERAGE: 1622 (1,547, 1,512; 2,010; 1,746; 1,687; 1,535; 1,759)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 370 (578, 682; 417; 641; 722; 570; 520)

OVERALL AVERAGE: 1095 (1,110, 1,095; 1,175; 1,221; 1,235; 1,070; 1,195)

[nigel-harps1954]

That's because away section is directly beneath gantry.

Funny how all of a sudden they started using the microphone in the cameras again so.

[El-Pietro]

actually, when you think about it, the fact that the 8 first clubs are up on average is even more imnpressive given that Shels and City are gone, two attractive opponents, reasonable away crowds from us at least, don't know how well Shels traveled last year other than to Cork obviously, but City would have brought anywhere from 50-200 to most games, Harps/Monaghan possibly the exception, though there was a solid 30-50 in harps if I recall correctly.

[nigel-harps1954]

I do remember being pleasantly surprised by Cork travelling support last season. Twas about 30 ish, which is great for the whole length of the country.

I'm still fairly happy with Harps home crowds considering all the s**t that's happened in the past few years, and given that we've had a couple of very poor seasons on the pitch.

Disappointed more didn't turn out when we had our 10 game unbeaten run, but to see a decent crowd of 550 back in for essentially a nothing game against Waterford was heart warming. There's still a buzz about Finn Park, and still a bit of atmosphere.

Next season is a big one for us. A big push for promotion will see how attendances turn out.

[bluewhitearmy]

actually, when you think about it, the fact that the 8 first clubs are up on average is even more imnpressive given that Shels and City are gone, two attractive opponents, reasonable away crowds from us at least, don't know how well Shels traveled last year other than to Cork obviously, but City would have brought anywhere from 50-200 to most games, Harps/Monaghan possibly the exception, though there was a solid 30-50 in harps if I recall correctly.

With the old 800-900 of ye turning up to Limerick one day.

[PartySaint]

That's because away section is directly beneath gantry.

Is it not in the middle of the away fans and the Sligo singing section?

I'm going to predict a crowd of 798 and the Pats UCD game tonight.

[razor]

With the old 800-900 of ye turning up to Limerick one day.

Some fellas will do anything to get a drink on Good Friday

[SkStu]

a couple of observations...

1) its a little bit weird that we have exactly the same attendance averages as last season... obviously we're down to our hardcore home support and hardcore visiting fans...

2) has anyone else noticed now that Nigel is doing the updates instead of Pineapple Stu, people have stopped the b!tchiness and accusations of bias... funny that! (Galway Utd fans the obvious exceptions!)

[nigel-harps1954]

a couple of observations...

1) its a little bit weird that we have exactly the same attendance averages as last season... obviously we're down to our hardcore home support and hardcore visiting fans...

Noticed that myself. A couple of strange looking averages. Sligo and Shels both on very round figures.

2) has anyone else noticed now that Nigel is doing the updates instead of Pineapple Stu, people have stopped the b!tchiness and accusations of bias... funny that! (Galway Utd fans the obvious exceptions!)

Harps fans, you know, take our word as if the good lord himself is saying it.

[SkStu]

Amen brother.

[redarmyfaction]

Is it not in the middle of the away fans and the Sligo singing section?

Setanta used to Mike up the Jinks Ave stand where the away support and our singing section are accommodated. Last Saturday they seemed to to have just one in the gantry directly above where the Derry singing, section was, ours was further down the stand towards the railway end where I was, and I was unable to hear any Derry chanting but I could see them waving their flags, I could however hear our singing clearly because there was a strong breeze blowing it down to me and it's origin being much closer. This is a long winded way to of saying that is the relative position of different auditors to its source that determines the volume of noise heard.

[horton]

Our avg. is less than half of what we had for opening game. Tis mad how much it's dropped as the seasons progressed. Will probably drop further with the remaining games.

[Mark]

Official attendance at Pat's v UCD tonight is 716.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

Tallaght looked very empty on MNS there. What was the attendance?

[dublinred]

Our avg. is less than half of what we had for opening game. Tis mad how much it's dropped as the seasons progressed. Will probably drop further with the remaining games.

Whats going on up there worst Derry crowd ever seen in the showgrounds I can recall seeing more Derry fans sitting on the roof than there were in the same stand on saturday.

[nigel-harps1954]

Tallaght looked very empty on MNS there. What was the attendance?

Extratime gave 1,200.

[Nah Nah Nah Nah]

3071 in Turners Cross I think they said

[nigel-harps1954]

87 in Terryland tonight. I counted. That was about 40 Harps fans too.