Quoteflynny looks like he's getting back to full fitness and he's showing some good form lately. when fit he's miles better than crowe or byrne, so if he can avoid gettin injure again, he should be in the squad
now with robbies injury, surely it's time for kerr to select an eL striker in a squad for a competitive game??
Jason Byrne, Glen Crowe, John O'Flynn???
any thoughts??
Whatever it was I am sure it was better than my plan to get out of this by pretending to be mad. I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?
flynny looks like he's getting back to full fitness and he's showing some good form lately. when fit he's miles better than crowe or byrne, so if he can avoid gettin injure again, he should be in the squad
Flynny has proved himself at U21 level and its about time Kerr gave him a call up!
Well he should be given a try against Bulgaria and if he PROVES himself then Brian Kerr should possible play him against Cyprus.Originally Posted by adamcarr
Republic of Ireland Soccer Supporter Club (RISSC London).
Dax my man, how about Barry O'Conner of Kildare County, he's been knocking in a few of late, he scored the second against your boy's last night.See yer at the meeting friday.
But back to the matter, I've alway's felt that Wes Houlihan should get more of a look in, I know he's not an out and out striker but any time i've seen him he's alway's played well.
Its crazy to see people be what society wants them to be but not me.
I'd like to see John O'Flynn get a chance against Bulgaria over crowe or byrne - very skillful player and have ALWAYS been impressed with him when ive seen him play (unlike the other 2)
Hoolahan has been outstanding this season and is worth a place in the side but he's not a striker. He proved himself at U21 level to the point of being nominated for U21 player of the year at one stage and is definitely worth a run in a friendly. And Byrne and O'Flynn are worth getting into a squad for a friendly at least.
I know he is not a striker but Danny Murphy should get a call up!
Hoolahan, Byrne deserve a chance, and how about Glen Fitzpatrick?
John O Flynn is definetly the best striker in the league when fully fit.Jason Byrne and Glen Crowe are good players also but are not in the same class as Flynny.Flynns reading of the game,his movement off the ball and his goal poaching make him stand out.The only thing i would be worried about these players being called up is the level they are playing at.Brian Kerr is not stupid.If he thinks a player is good enough he will call him up.I dont understand why people criticise him when he does'nt have an eircom league player in the squad.Brian Kerr is a fantastic coach and he knows whats best for the squad..
Also Wes Houlihan has been in great form this season.But he was also in good form last season.Maybe his time will come too.These two lads are ahead of the rest at the moment..
well Skoog who plays for sweeden was on the same pitch as JOF when malmo played city. Both strikers. Theres no need for me to tell you who was the better player! If memory serves me right John scored after 5 minutes!
Personally I don't think many EL players are close to international standard, but the real question is whether they more to offer than those playing at a higher level in England? The answer has to be no. Is Byrne or Crowe better than Connolly? The answer is no.
O'Flynn is a different question as he is just out of the U-21 and did very well for Ireland at that level. He could be playing Div 1 in England, I would like Kerr to call him up for a friendly it might help him get a move to a good club.
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His errors are volitional and are the portals of discovery.
O'Flynn is quality and undoubtabley good enough to play for Ireland but he'll need to show he can still consistently score goals, which he has yet to do since his injury, before getting a call up.
Well that's Irelands loss. It's amazing how Wes Hoolahan, as an example, can be on a shortlist of three for U21 player of the year and yet watch most of his other U21 teamates progress to the full international side while Ireland deprive themselves of his services because of a snobbish attitude towards the league he plays in.
Good God! If you'd have said that while he was at Belfield, I'd have had you committed!
If you look at the players Brian has tried on the right side of midfield recently - Andy Reid, Liam Miller and Martin Rowlands - they all have done something at a higher level than Wes and appear to be on the upward track in a serious way.
And then you still have other options like McAteer, S.Reid, Finnan and Alan Quinn, do you really think it is just a snobbish attitued is keeping eircom League players like Wes out?
A man of genius makes no mistakes.
His errors are volitional and are the portals of discovery.
Reid and Miller are just better yes (Though Wes had forced Reid out of his favoured left wing role at U21 level) but Rowlands is a second division player who afaik either never played youth football for Ireland or when he did certinaly didn't get the plaudits Hoolahan did. I mean, I remember after Ireland played Russia at U21 level the Russian senior manager was absolutley bemused by the fact that Hoolahan wasn't a senior international. If he was one of the best players in a team that contained the likes of O'Shea, Reid, Reid, Miller, Butler and a few others who have senior caps than it surley shows he too is worth a chance at international level?
I'm not against Wes getting a call-up, it could help him out just pointing out there are a lot of other options available to Brian Kerr. Fact is playing in the eL is a handicap as it is basically seen as part-time and NW 3 quality and Brian Kerr has siad you need to play at least NW1 level and playing first team football regularly so that really rules out eL players right off the bat as well as NW 2 players, so this whole thread is a waste of time.
He only called up Alan Quinn when he had to when he was with Wednesday in NW 2. He called up Rowlands ( who was very highly rated when playing at under 21 level ) when he was promoted to NW 1 and named QPR player of the year.
It's not just ability, you have to be playing at a certain standard.
A man of genius makes no mistakes.
His errors are volitional and are the portals of discovery.
Well, if Ireland want to deprive themselves of players who proved at U21 level that they could be an assett to the team, that's their loss. He's called up Division two players before and players not getting their game regularly at Division One level who have done far less in their youth careers than Hoolahan.
you're implying that u-21 to senior games is a level step up for all
it isn't. For some of the guys who play at u-21 it's a step down - easier or not much harder than what they play every week. For others it's a massive step up.
Also Kerr has called up the odd player from lower divisions but they were all getting their game. Hoolohan will certainly get a go eventually if he's good enough - and so may O'Flynn but some of the other names dropped on this thread are frankly highly unlikely
that fitzpatrick suggestion has to be a joke of some kind
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