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    Quote Originally Posted by corkharps

    BTW I think Derry should be the first name on the list,because they're great!

    Alot greater than the lowly Harps anyway. Maybe if Harps got into this cup they would manage more than 600 miserable souls in Ballybofey. Dont think the sight of union jacks would bother a large portion of your support anyway.
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    correct me if im wrong but isnt that station pay-per-view

    cant see many bar-stoolers paying for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecorner
    setanta sports ... isn't that station pay-per-view
    It's part of the standard package on NTL in Dublin anyway, don't know about the rest of the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thecorner
    correct me if im wrong but isnt that station pay-per-view
    It's free-to-air with the NTL package from August (when they'll broadcast on weekends, it'll switch to more extensive coverage from January). They're currently in negotiations with Sky and Chorus.

    From what I hear, it could well be free to air on Chorus too, but it'll be a subscription channel (as opposed to pay per view, i.e. a monthly rate) on Sky.
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    Its part of the 'sports pay per view' on sky.

    I see another Setana 2 or something which is a pay per view channel though like premiership plus
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    Quote Originally Posted by dortie
    Its part of the 'sports pay per view' on sky.

    I see another Setana 2 or something which is a pay per view channel though like premiership plus
    This is a brand new channel, not the current Setanta 1 channel that's pay per view on sky.
    I think it's going to be a separate monthly subscription €9.99 or something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xtreme rebel
    How long does the tournament last for???
    Starts in April and ends when???

    If its over within a 2 month period then subsrcibe for 2 months and then cut it off is what I'll do...
    I'd say they'll try to run if off in a month. Its only 13 or 14 games (depending on 1 or 2 leg final) so they should try to run it off quickly to keep interest up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corkharps
    There was a simular competition in the 1970's(President's Cup?).Harps beat Linfield in the final on penos in the mid seventies,unfortunately there was a full scale riot afterwards.Have things moved on enough since?The thought of Union Jack clad away supporters arriving in busloads would still be a red rag to many!Maybe if the tickets were only distributed through official supporters clubs, the threat of violence would be limited?I would love to see it work and be expanded.How can the FAI get TV coverage and massive prizemoney for this ,yet they are unable to do ANYTHING to promote the EL?

    BTW I think Derry should be the first name on the list,because they're great!
    it was called the Tyler cup and was a disaster trouble wise.
    Athlone reached the final twice,winning in 79/80 and hosting Linfield in St Mels,had the usual tri colour burning etc but i feel the climate is right now for such a competition.
    since its invitational i think both derry and longford should be in it with shels and cork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parnell ranger
    it was called the Tyler cup and was a disaster trouble wise.
    Athlone reached the final twice hosting Linfield in St Mels,had the usual tri colour burning etc but i feel the climate is right now for such a competition.
    since its invitational i think both derry and longford should be in it with shels and cork.
    Derry,Longford and Cork.Why?

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    At one point it was also called the Blanxnit Cup. They use to make football socks

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    Quote Originally Posted by corkharps
    Derry,Longford and Cork.Why?
    Derry because of the huge interest a game between an il team and them would have all over the island.
    Longford as cup winners,shels as league champs and cork for their massive support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parnell ranger
    Derry because of the huge interest a game between an il team and them would have all over the island.
    Longford as cup winners,shels as league champs and cork for their massive support.
    Sorry can't agree with including a team for political reasons.Longford would have to retain the cup to be included!Shels and Cork are still a possibility depending on the rest of the season.

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    It's not Invitational, it's top 2 in the league plus cup winners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by corkharps
    Sorry can't agree with including a team for political reasons.Longford would have to retain the cup to be included!Shels and Cork are still a possibility depending on the rest of the season.
    who mentioned politics?
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    North v South Competitions

    We've had a few.

    Dublin/Belfast Inter City Cup 1942-1949

    North south Cup 1961-63

    Blaxnit Cup - 1968-1974

    Texaco Cup (also incl mainland Uk) 1970-1974 - intermittent last 2 years were just north v south

    Tyler Cup - 1978-1980

    Linfield still claim to be reigning All Ireland champions as they won the Tyler Cup in 1980 beating Athlone over 2 legs.

    I assume our 3 places are up for grabs as we still have time to give it to our top 3. The Northern 3 are already determined as they won't have a another season finished by April.

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    Who said this was an invitational competition? FAI have clearly said its a competition you have to qualify for.

    Wonder is the prelude to all-ireland league? How would UEFA see such a matter & would they let both "leagues" keep european place for a few years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete
    Who said this was an invitational competition? FAI have clearly said its a competition you have to qualify for.

    Wonder is the prelude to all-ireland league? How would UEFA see such a matter & would they let both "leagues" keep european place for a few years?
    It is not the prelude to an All Ireland league and your second question is superflous. None of the previous north v South competitions were either.

    The Irish League clubs do not want an All Ireland League. Normally this only gets trotted out on a slow nesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gspain
    The Irish League clubs do not want an All Ireland League.
    Bizarrely, considering that they're in a worse state than us.... I don't know, if this cup is a success, it wouldn't at all suprise me if some form of breakaway formed....
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    Sure haven't Linfield been calling for cross border competition for years? Dunno if they only interested in cup one though.
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    Lads, this morning's announcement is great news for both the EL and the IL. Here's my thoughts...

    It stands out a mile from the press conference that this is Setanta Sports' baby, and their way of sussing out the interest in both leagues. As far as I can see they've got complete sponsorship of the competition, and obviously TV rights. Fair enough, we can understand the TV rights thing, but the fact that they've pushed the boat out and provided full sponsorship and prize money must surely ring a bell (bear in mind: Sky Sports don't sponsor the "Barclaycard" Premiership do they?!). So what's my point then...?

    The people at Setanta can see the potential of both leagues. They'll televise this annual tournament, they'll monitor the viewing audiences/revenue and then down the line, pending the success of the Setanta Cup, they'll pounce for TV rights for the EL & IL (or combined league, whatever the future brings). By that stage they'll have their feet firmly in the door of Merrion Square and will be in a lot better position to bid.

    How often have we cried out for RTE & TV3 to get more involved? Well now that Setanta have shown their interest, I think our national broadcasters should be left behind. Setanta has the potential to air these games to ex-pats right across the world. Therefore, their audience is bigger, therefore their advertising revenue is bigger, therefore a major cash injection into the leagues is, for the first time, realistic!

    Okay, the opinions on this new competition will vary, and I know people are going to call it a farce and a fixtures nightmare. But try to be patient and see it for what it really is. Someone at Setanta has vision. Let's hope the FAI and IFA can get it right from an organisational point of view.

    Exciting times for Irish Footbal!

    P.S. Sorry about the long post!
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