Glens win in Europe

[Lux Interior]

You'tr tuining your own argumant here with a stupid comment-the Republic of Ireland is NOT part of the yoo-kay; simple as that

I think my original comment went right over your head, liam

[Lux Interior]

i find it strange that we should suddenly be having a debate on the british/irish culture-in a football related thread loosely based on the glens displays in europe!!
from the minute sensitive issues such as 'an all ireland league' or 'an all ireland team', was brought into this thread we all knew that sooner or later we were all going to get 'political'.-----i suppose some people are interested to see what way 'northern' lads react when contencious issues are brought up.--i would be the 1st to agree that 'northern ireland' is a complex issue-and indeed very interesting to debate-but unfortunatly what happens is comments start flying from both sides in a debate which is never from the off set for the 'feint hearted'--then before we know it, all hell breaks loose, and the moderator is struggling to control the situation.

i enjoy 'political' debate.---i would perhaps not be classed as one of the more moderate glenmen, and some of my views on ulster might have a few lads here foaming at the mouth!!

but i am not going to reveal them on a 'football' related thread.----i think it more appropriate that for such debates to be discussed on the non football section-G.O.T.

if anyone does wish to start a thread there and it is of interest, i myself will contribute to the debate-----but this wee section should be left free of such politics, and for purely football related matters only.

Ballyhenry - this forum isn't ready for, shall we say, your interesting views

[liam88]

I think my original comment went right over your head, liam

I'm thinking it probably did Lux-care to re-phrase?
Like I said, I know you're a sound bloke (and I'm well up to that pint sometime-never been to Belfast before) I just lvoe a healthy debate....................................

[ballyhenryglens]

Ballyhenry - this forum isn't ready for, shall we say, your interesting views

don't worry, lux.--i have already stated that this part of the forums, i believe, to be football orientated only.--and i for one will be making no 'interesting' comments on 'political' issues concerning northern ireland, while on this section of the forums.

i believe football/political issues should be kept seperate on forums like these...hence the 'off topic' comment.

anyway, back to football--this week should be a most interesting one with the glens away to coleraine on tuesday evening, and then on saturday we entertain newry city-and of course our old chum-mr. woy muckweedy.

newry got off to a good start in the C.I.S yesterday winning 4-2 against muckweedys old outfit, omagh town with new newry striker michael mchugh-(a player i've always rated)-getting a brace.

couple of enjoyable games, i reacon to look forward to--(although i think we'll put both teams to the sword)--- and thank god the seasons started!!--(no more running 'round shopping centres with the wife on a sat. afternoon!!)
any thoughts yerself on the 2 forthcoming games, lux??

[liam88]

While we be on the subject of Nord Iron-I heard on the news about plans to disband the IRA for SF big centinary/big anniversary next year...
*cracks opend the worm can*
will it do any good?

[liam88]

OOps missed Bally's post-didn't realise we're back onto the beautiful game........good luck to all EL/IL team this week (except lumfield) and especially RAmbs

[ballyhenryglens]

OOps missed Bally's post-didn't realise we're back onto the beautiful game........good luck to all EL/IL team this week (except lumfield) and especially RAmbs

well my young friend, i'll certainly agree with you on that.

and i'll second your opinion as regards your comment at 'the great satan'--the 'bluedogs'.

they didn't get off to the best of starts yesterday-a scorless draw against ards which according to the local papers was 'drab' and 'boring' to say the least.

and then we had the ports crashing to dungannon swifts, 2-1 at stanmore park, in a surprise defeat.

thats football lads-ya take nothing for granted.

[Lux Interior]

Btw,You cannot be Both Irish & Br*tish ....it is either One Or the other That's what some jokers on here & elsewhere don't understand!

Yes, you can, Dev .... not everyone has the same fear and loathing of Eng-ger-lan than you do.

Clearly the two are not mutually exclusive.

Don't swallow the Green Book propaganda.

[Lux Interior]

i find it strange that we should suddenly be having a debate on the british/irish culture-in a football related thread loosely based on the glens displays in europe!!
from the minute sensitive issues such as 'an all ireland league' or 'an all ireland team', was brought into this thread we all knew that sooner or later we were all going to get 'political'.-----i suppose some people are interested to see what way 'northern' lads react when contencious issues are brought up.--i would be the 1st to agree that 'northern ireland' is a complex issue-and indeed very interesting to debate-but unfortunatly what happens is comments start flying from both sides in a debate which is never from the off set for the 'feint hearted'--then before we know it, all hell breaks loose, and the moderator is struggling to control the situation.

i enjoy 'political' debate.---i would perhaps not be classed as one of the more moderate glenmen, and some of my views on ulster might have a few lads here foaming at the mouth!!

but i am not going to reveal them on a 'football' related thread.----i think it more appropriate that for such debates to be discussed on the non football section-G.O.T.

if anyone does wish to start a thread there and it is of interest, i myself will contribute to the debate-----but this wee section should be left free of such politics, and for purely football related matters only.

Indeed, Ballyhenry ... it was all going swimmingly with the thread when Prof Paddy J with the Oirish Doctorate (or whatever) switched the course dramatically from our Finnish success to an in-depth analysis of a couple of old 'freedom fighters' (ones, that you or I wouldn't really eulogise in the same glowing terms).

And so back to football.

Not going to make it to Coleraine for the game this Weds (as I'm off supporting my country in far-off climes ), however I see Coleraine have made a shock signing at centre-back.

I wonder will he receive the same sort of treatment he got the last time he signed for Coleraine

[sylvo]

[QUOTE=Lux Interior]

Not going to make it to Coleraine for the game this Weds (as I'm off supporting my country in far-off climes ),



Far off climes, come on Lux it's not that far, sure it's only two hour's from Belfast Central station to Connolly station and then four stop's on the dart to Lansdowne, sure you'll be home before 1am.

[Lux Interior]

[QUOTE=sylvo]

Not going to make it to Coleraine for the game this Weds (as I'm off supporting my country in far-off climes ),



Far off climes, come on Lux it's not that far, sure it's only two hour's from Belfast Central station to Connolly station and then four stop's on the dart to Lansdowne, sure you'll be home before 1am.

I'll be slipping into a neighbouring country tomorrow morning, under the cloak of darkness.

Just trying to avoid the Howth Concerned Residents Group taking umbrage at my spanking new green Umbro apparel as we speed on by.

I'll need to get my money changed, won't I?

[Lux Interior]

You'd better tell the UN then .....even they could do a better job than the T*ns & if it was Scotland,but not the Ingles,we might understand........though apparantly some of your finest citizens were up to their old tricks on the Seacat to there,on Saturday

PS.There is No Green book ......just The Truth

I also heard some of our "finest citizens" were up to their "old tricks" in Irish Street as well

How are you guys doing in the Olympic Games, so far?

[lopez]

F*ck me! I go out for a Ruby with my sister and her husband followed by a perusal through his large Scotch collection and I find that a free for all has broken out.

i find it strange that we should suddenly be having a debate on the british/irish culture-in a football related thread loosely based on the glens displays in europe!!...

I would have taken your point about politics and this thread more seriously if you hadn't brought up the all-Irish state over a matter of football. There are two relatively poor leagues in Ireland. An all-Ireland competition would increase interest - even if some of it was unwanted - and may even bring more money into Glentoran from TV rights. It's nothing more than that, and if you are worried about your international side, get it in writing that it stays. And as I said, an all-Ireland state does not necessarily mean the end of the NI side (eg. Faroes, Puerto Rico, Scotland, Wales).

As for your interesting views, go on tell us! They can't be worse than Patrick J's.

You were doing so well there until the veto-part-thingy about the "majoritys right ot self-determination". The "majority" continually exercise their right to "self-determine" via the Westminister elections. Wishy-washy, misty-eyed, green-tinted nonsense about "self-determination", from a 32-point of view, has been subsumed within the confines of the Belfast Agreement through the principle of consent.

More stereotyping. I'm impressed. The majority's decision over self-determination was given at the 1919 Westminster election over the status of something of a more credible 'constituent of the United Kingdom' with 'a far more distinct and separate identity, or culture' than exists now (a plebiscite as you know was never granted). The answer was for it to secede.

Interesting how you picture Irish freedom fighters as mad (I'd certainly concur with you on Pearse), but are quiet about British politicians of the period. Perhaps stupid would be more appropriate? I mean if home rule was granted in the first place, chances are we'd all be going to watch our side with a British passport now. Alternative history...what a way to start an argument!

Talking of mad dog whatever happend to the ol' eejit......I've heard rumours he's batting for the other side now days and I'm not talking Nationalist/Loyalist

He was mentioned the other day in the news as trying to visit his fragrant wife, the lovely Gina, in a hotel belonging to the German lady. The UDA's calender pin-up girl from 1999 is currently suffering from ovarian cancer, but the powers that be have told the bedwetter he can't go. Dunno about him, ahem, batting for the other side, although many people hold this view as his best mate, Sam McCrory, was a secret admirer of the Village People back in his skinhead days.

[Schumi]

We don't have your inherant genetic ability for winning the...walking

Well actually...

[lopez]

Young Mr88 was perchance, referring to our other old friend MD,last heard of abseiling into the Estonian national stadium,when the osc.played their in March........... ........Mr.Even-handed,he is not...

Dog Breath, unlike yourself, does not possess 'the same fear and loathing of Eng-ger-lan' of yourself but is a good loyal subject of Brit-tan-nia, despite him doing more abseiling when his fellow 'home' nation were so unsportingly dumped out of Euro 2004.

[sylvo]

I'll be slipping into a neighbouring country tomorrow morning, under the cloak of darkness.

Just trying to avoid the Howth Concerned Residents Group taking umbrage at my spanking new green Umbro apparel as we speed on by.

I'll need to get my money changed, won't I?

Lux are you catching the early morning seacat to Troon and having a break in Scotland, you proberly better get yer money changed I've heard they can get a bit funny about taking those six county note's in Britain.

[sylvo]

[QUOTE=Lux Interior]

Just trying to avoid the Howth Concerned Residents Group taking umbrage at my spanking new green Umbro apparel as we speed on by.


I don't blame yer seeing that the new Ireland gear is not out until the end of the month and there may well be a few finger's pointing in yer direction saying thing's about buying gear that has fallen off the back of a lorry, did yer get the new kit complete with new badge from the West Belfast argos book.

[lopez]

Lux are you catching the early morning seacat to Troon and having a break in Scotland, you proberly better get yer money changed I've heard they can get a bit funny about taking those six county note's in Britain.

Don't talk to me about those O6C notes. Conchita's cousin gave some money to the kids at Xmas when she was visiting us before going to see her brother in Tanfield. We tried cashing them in at some Xmas theme park on what used to be the Millenium dome and we were told to clear off as they were not, and I quote, real money. For the first time in my life I was screaming at the Millwall-esque bird on the counter, 'It's an integral part of the United Kingdom (so it is, yer wee cay, yer!)' but it was all in vain. I mean you can spend Euros in the O6C and get them out of a hole in the wall in Belfast, but try spending sterling without the German lady on the front in Britain...

Paddy J's still trying to get back on this thread.

[Lux Interior]

Lux are you catching the early morning seacat to Troon and having a break in Scotland, you proberly better get yer money changed I've heard they can get a bit funny about taking those six county note's in Britain.

I got the Euros today, Sylvo, thanks for asking.

[Lux Interior]

[QUOTE=sylvo]

Just trying to avoid the Howth Concerned Residents Group taking umbrage at my spanking new green Umbro apparel as we speed on by.


I don't blame yer seeing that the new Ireland gear is not out until the end of the month and there may well be a few finger's pointing in yer direction saying thing's about buying gear that has fallen off the back of a lorry, did yer get the new kit complete with new badge from the West Belfast argos book.

Im not aware that Argos stocked new football apparel, much less the existence of a "West Belfast" version.

"Back of a lorry" - too much stereotyping going on in here - I haven't even mentioned the green'n'grey ..... [snip]