Shels V Spilt

**harry crumb** · 04/08/2004, 9:53 PM

Neil and RedX, u have to realise that most of the people in Ireland don't even realise the "league of ireland" exists. The match tonight was live on our national broadcaster and if showed an irish club team DOMINATE the champions of Croatia.

This is good for the league. Maybe people will change their perceptions of the league. Before tonight the perception was that the league was a "mac-e-ah"! league.

The league has to have a less self-interested stance and a more of a holistic view of our teams in Europe.

**ollie** · 04/08/2004, 10:12 PM

as much as i hate them n the EL i am delighted they have won and especially the manner in which they have won.i hope they give deportivo a good rattle

**Fair_play_boy** · 04/08/2004, 10:36 PM

No matter what anti-Shels sentiment there is out there, you would have to have a stone age view of things not to be delighted for Irish football tonight. By the way, what odds on the City -v- Shels match being postponed?

**patsh** · 05/08/2004, 7:31 AM

It's not "stone-age" or "begrudging" to not want $h�l$ to get through. That club has done NOTHING for this league over the years except cause it hassle and grief. On the one hand I'm happy to see an Irish, (well really Little Britain), side do well, but they are also rivals to our club and we don't want to fall any further behnd them. Lets be honest, this could mean total domination of the league by the one club which doesn't give a f*ck about the league.

On a more positive note, I hope the upcoming business initiative can use the result to our advantage. If enough businesses in Cork can be convinced that with investment, City could be very soon be in the 3rd round, with all the attendant publicity, they might feel City are a worthwhile investment. We need serious money coming into the club now to have any hope of catching up with $h�l$.

As for Oily, its hard to like that cnut, but between himself and Dolan last night, they gave the impression of a united front for the league, which can only improve things, given the endless negativity usually associated with Irish soccer.
It was hard not to spot the complete dislike Dolan has for Collins though....

**NorthoftheLee** · 05/08/2004, 8:40 AM

I know its Shels but well done to them and it was a great result for eircom league football....hope they give Deportiva 2 goos games.....

**Peadar** · 05/08/2004, 8:40 AM

Brilliant result last night and it really compliments the success of Cork City FC because people can now see that the league can compete in Europe rather than it just being a run of good luck for City against weak teams.
We love to begrudge others in Ireland.
What we should be doing is everything in our power to ensure that we emmulate the success of Shels next year. Well done Shels.

**vssn** · 05/08/2004, 8:43 AM

Went to lasts nights game, highly entertaining and congrats to Shels. Great to see so many supporters from other EL clubs in attendance. I hate Shels as much as any City fan, but the result can only be positive for the EL, it raises its profile and will encourage more people to go along and support their local club rather than follow Birts on Sky. It is crucial that City finish top two this season, it could be us in this position next season. Roll on Friday night.

**Knoert** · 05/08/2004, 8:46 AM

I don't dislike any Irish team because I haven't any real experience, so no reasons to dislike any Irish team.

Although I can understand the ones who don't want Shelbourne to win, in Holland the situation is similar, I've got an opinion about every Dutch team, some I envy succes in Europe, some not.

However, remember this is good for for Irish football in general, the experience and the UEFA-coefficients-list (spelling?).

**ccfcman** · 05/08/2004, 9:36 AM

Originally Posted by Fair_play_boy

No matter what anti-Shels sentiment there is out there, you would have to have a stone age view of things not to be delighted for Irish football tonight. By the way, what odds on the City -v- Shels match being postponed?

so you're pleased to see shels get two big pay days and by ollie byrnes own omission this morning on des cahill's sports report they're looking to netc.�450k from depor match

the eL is over as a competition for the next 5yrs minimum

**ccfcman** · 05/08/2004, 9:37 AM

however congrats shels on shaming the croatian "champions"

**DolansWaistcoat** · 05/08/2004, 10:31 AM

Well done Shels,great result and well deserved.I was shouting like a lunatic when the first goal went in,delighted.

**Fair_play_boy** · 05/08/2004, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by ccfcman

so you're pleased to see shels get two big pay days and by ollie byrnes own omission this morning on des cahill's sports report they're looking to netc.�450k from depor match

the eL is over as a competition for the next 5yrs minimum

Yeah, now they can afford to buy a few decent fans!

**Hecko** · 05/08/2004, 11:35 AM

Don't know how people can see it as a bad thing that $hels have gone thru...
If they are going to be in a dominant position then it just sets the standard higher for City, Bohs and others to get to - and we should realise that with proper investment and management we can.

Surely it's better for eth long-term future of the league that we're trying to be competitive with a team in the third round of eth CL than being happy that a few clubs are at the same standard getting knocked out in the first round every year.

The bottom line is that IF we win the league this year or next year or the year after, we will now be going in with a real hope of trying to get to the Third Round or even Group Stage - and for the first time there are financial backers out there that will be willing to support an eL team trying to do so.

...And while I would have preferred it to be any other team than $hels, eth fixture pile-up could even up the league a bit too...

**Colm** · 05/08/2004, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by vssn

Brits on Sky.

The Brits were on Sky last night alright, Sky Sports News had a good report on the Shels game!

**Shelsman** · 05/08/2004, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by patsh

It's not "stone-age" or "begrudging" to not want $h�l$ to get through. That club has done NOTHING for this league over the years except cause it hassle and grief. On the one hand I'm happy to see an Irish, (well really Little Britain), side do well, but they are also rivals to our club and we don't want to fall any further behnd them. Lets be honest, this could mean total domination of the league by the one club which doesn't give a f*ck about the league.

What the begrudgers seem to be thinking is that this is taking away from the other clubs, all it means is that Shels have jumped ahead ( and I would be glad to see any eL club do this ). It doesn't mean that other clubs have suddenly got poorer or weaker, they are exactly the same they were a few days ago.

As for Shels being selfish, I'm not a fan of Ollie Byrne's carry on over the last few years ( arguing over the fine print in the rulebook -except for the registration row ) but that doesn't mean the whole club is bad. I think that other clubs will raise their standards even more now ( but let's hope they don't gamble / overspend in doing so and end up in debt ).

The fact that so many fans from different clubs were there to support an Irish team says it all.

**Shelsman** · 05/08/2004, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Hecko

...And while I would have preferred it to be any other team than $hels, eth fixture pile-up could even up the league a bit too...

Would you REALLY want to see Dublin City or UCD representing us in the Champions League rather than Shels????

**Schumi** · 05/08/2004, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Shelsman

Would you REALLY want to see ...UCD representing us in the Champions League rather than Shels????

Yes...

**namloc** · 05/08/2004, 12:33 PM

Agree hecko. Shels have really set the standard for the like of City and Bohs and the rest to follow them. It's now time for City to step up and show the rest of the eL that we can be as good as Shels. There's too many "ifs" and "maybes" and blaming linesmen with City. Shels have taken the lead, it's time for City to follow.