QuoteLudogorets Razgrad have narrowed the gap between themselves and CSKA Sofia to 2 points in the Bulgarian League. Ludogorets play 2nd from bottom next while CSKA play the team in 6th, before they both play each other on the last day of the season.
Zestafoni are now top on GD, after winning 4-1 and Rustavi dropping 2 points away to Torpedo.
Ludogorets Razgrad have narrowed the gap between themselves and CSKA Sofia to 2 points in the Bulgarian League. Ludogorets play 2nd from bottom next while CSKA play the team in 6th, before they both play each other on the last day of the season.
Pats defo seeded in Rounds 1 and 2.
Bohs defo seeded in round 1, not seeded in round 2
Sligo defo not seeded in ROund 2
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Originally Posted by Dodge
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Dodge, update on Shamrock rovers please?
Still can't defend
"Just score more than TNS do in July"
Back on topic....
Metalurgi Rustavi are still top in Georgia. Done a bit of research in to it and they are still top because they have more wins since the top 10 teams broke up in to a 'championship round'.
To get a seeding spot 1 of the 3 teams below have to win their leagues & Bayern Munich have to win the champions league
Georgia – Metalurgi Rustavi (Level on points but still ahead, 2 games left)
Bulgaria – Ludogorets (2 points behind, 2 games left)
Moldova – Dacia (4 points behind, 2 games left)
He's a Longford fan, you mean Carmarthen.
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
if he can't make his own funnys properly, don't spoon feed him
How does it work that Pats are seeded in round 2 even though Sligo were nominated as the 'highest' ranked team by the FAI?
It's surely not based on Pats having a better European record...don't all clubs take the national coefficient?
Harrumph and indeed
Seven years on and it's still the most offensive C word there is.
Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.
The overall ranking is determined by the national co-efficient. How many team and which round they start in.
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But each team has their own co-efficient, used to work out seeding in each round.
team ranking
cl seeding
el seeding
A team without their own points takes on the national points
Oh, and each country's cup winner gets highest available entry position in the europa league.
Can you provide a source for this? Whos on top seems to depend on where you look, and sounds like it would be particularly harsh if (finishing level on points) Zestafoni were denied (they have better GD and of the four matches against Metalurgi won 3 and drew 1), even if the other crowd had better record (of wins) in the championship round.
I thin I follow this.
Bayern already qualified so, if previous years are anything to go by, Basel would go into next round leaving abit of extra wriggle room.
IF Chelsea win then you need two of those things? No?
So am I right in thinking that all Irish teams take the national coefficient because no team has a larger individual coefficient than the national one?...
I'm just wondering why it is that Pats seem to be at an advantage by being seeded in round 2 whereas Sligo won't be when the latter are the 'highest' ranked Irish team entering the competition based on the fact that they won the cup...
Last edited by adamd164; 15/05/2012 at 8:56 PM.
The national coefficient determines what round a team enters the competition at. Ireland's coefficient determines what phase the champions enter the Champions League and the respective phases each Europa-qualified team enters. This year it's the second QR of the Champions League, regardless of whether Rovers or Pats or UCD had won the league.
The team's coefficient then kicks in, determining whether the side is seeded in their respective round. If Pats had won the league, they'd have had a better chance of securing seeding than Rovers, while UCD would have no chance at all. That's why it matters so much which teams win which leagues, or which team achieves the higher Europa League berth from their league.
Last edited by Charlie Darwin; 15/05/2012 at 9:11 PM.
.....This is an article of the league rules posted on Zestafoni's Facebook page.
http://translate.google.com/translat...777%26lang%3D1
Main things to pick out: The 8 teams were among the "Metallurg" has more victories (15-13).
At the moment, "Metallurgy," the leader, because they have more wins.
If Bayern win Basel will advance to round 3, a round 1 team will replace therefore Rivers would be next in line to be seeded should 1 league work out for then.
That google translation certainly clears it all up.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
It does indeed, but who the hell are Rivers ?
Big games in Georgia this afternoon
Rustavi at home to Dinamo Tbilisi, who are 5th. Zestafoni are away to 4th placed Dila Gori.
The league format seems very odd to me - does anyone know did the results from the first 22 games get carried across to the Championship group, excluding those against the bottom 4?
If not it means they've played a 50-game season.
I phoned the speaking clock to hear a voice speak, it said - "At the tone you will be very much alone"
The national co-efficient contributes 20% to a club's ranking. So if a team, say UCD, entered Europe their ranking wouldn't be the LOI rank of 7.375, instead they'd use the club rank of 1.475 (listed as ireland here)
On top of that 20%, clubs earn points for themselves if the win/draw games in the tournament proper (ie not qualifiers). Pats got a point for drawing with Hertha in UEFA Cup 1st round in 08/09 (for example). When the Europa league was introduced, UEFA gave 'bonus points' to clubs for exiting at certain stages, this isn't added to national score.
The list is
exit at Cl QR2 - 1
exit at EL QR 1 - 0.25
exit at EL QR 2 - 0.5
exit at EL QR 3 - 1
exit at EL QR PO - 1.5
make EL groups - 2
SO Pats co-efficient of 4.975 is made up of 1.475 (national score) + 1 (earned by draw in UEFA Rd 1 in 08/09) + 1.5 (earned by reaching Play offs in 09/10) + 1 (earned by reachiing 3rd QR last year)
Sligo is 1.475 + 0.25 (QR1 in 09/10) + 1 (QR3 last year) = 2.725
And just in case....
The national co-efficient is made up of points earned by clubs in individual games. In Qualifying rounds, a win = 1 point, draw = 0.5. This is doubled for group stages now. The total each year is divided by club entered to give rank each year. The co-efficient is the last 5 years combined
Last edited by Dodge; 16/05/2012 at 11:42 AM.
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About time someone started the "Let Pats win the League for the good of the co-efficient" movement
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