European Football 2012

[Dodge]

Are you sure, Bert seems to think not?

They're not called regions but for the last couple of years the groups were very much, eh, alligned...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2..._round#Seeding
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2..._round#Seeding

The year before that was the first year of the new Europa League and was completely random, but apparently there was a backlash about that. They won't call them regions, because they want to keep their options open to keep the sme amount of seeded/unseeded in all groups. So last year The 10 Northern seeds came from Ireland (Pats), Sweden x 2, Norway x 2, England, Iceland, Finland, Wales and, eh, Macedonia. The 10 unseeded teams came from Northern Ireland x 2, Faroes x 2, Luxembourg x 2, Latvia, Estonia, Iceland and Wales. Of those countries, Macedonia had another seed in a different group (cental/eastern) and Estonia and Lithuania had unseeded in that same group.

Once again its liekly the 3 fair play spots will be from 'Northern' countries. At the moment I'm confident Pats/Bohs will get one of these...

EB/Streymur Faroes
FK Šiauliai Lithuania
JJK ( Jyväskylä) Finland
Cliftonville Northern Ireland
Daugava Daugavpils Latvia
Llanelli Wales
Crusaders Northern Ireland
Jeunesse d'Esch Luxembourg
Žalgiris (Vilnius) Lithuania
IBV Iceland
Trans (Narva) Estonia
Por Akureyri (1st Div) Iceland
Kalju (Tallinn) Estonia
NSÍ Runavík Faroes
Portadown Northern Ireland
CS Grevenmacher Luxembourg
Víkingur Faroes
Cefn Druids Wales

Only those in bold haven't been confirmed. if a fair play qualifier comes from the lieks of Finland or maybe Norway, they'd be added to this

[Dodge]

Also the league's co-efficient is based on 2007/08 to 2011/12. Our ranking is 7.375

The contributions to that are
Pats - 2.791
Drogheda -1.5
Rovers - 1.125
Derry - 0.667
Bohs -0.5
Dundalk- 0.375
Sligo - 0.25
Cork - 0.167
Fingal - 0

[Bawnville Hoop]

I think it will be regionalised in the 1st round for sure as it goes out the window for the other rounds (due to the 2nd draw being made during the 1st round ties).

I am 90% sure the following will be the teams in the Champions league 2nd round (Northern region)

Seeded:
Belarus - Bate Borisov
Poland - Legia Warsaw
Sweden - Helsingborg
Finland - Helsinki
Latvia - FK Ventspils
Ireland - Shamrock Rovers

Unseeded:

Norway - Molde
Northern Ireland - Linfield
Wales – TNS
Iceland - KR Reykjavík
Estonia - Flora Tallinn
Faroe Islands - Tórshavn

[A N Mouse]

Once again its liekly the 3 fair play spots will be from 'Northern' countries. At the moment I'm confident Pats/Bohs will get one of these...

Dodge,

slightly unclear what you meant by above, but UCD would be our fair play representives (as usual) - an extra team to further dilute the co-efficient. In the provisional rankings from January the Republic of Ireland were ranked 14th.

[PartySaint]

Dodge,

slightly unclear what you meant by above, but UCD would be our fair play representives (as usual) - an extra team to further dilute the co-efficient. In the provisional rankings from January the Republic of Ireland were ranked 14th.

2 different sentences. So. Fair Play team will come from a Northern Country.

Then, Pats/Bohs will get one of the teams listed below in the First Round

[Dodge]

Dodge,

slightly unclear what you meant by above, but UCD would be our fair play representives (as usual) - an extra team to further dilute the co-efficient. In the provisional rankings from January the Republic of Ireland were ranked 14th.

Party saint has it spot on. I expect the 3 FP spots to go to the Northenr countries. In the last rankings the top 4 were; Norway, Finland, Holland and Iceland.

If somehow Ireland got the spot, UCD would get the place (FAI have announced this). And yeah, our joint co-efficient would be divided by 5 instead of 4 because of that. UCD wouldn't be seeded

The Pats/Bohs bit just meant that I think we'll still get one of the teams listed, with the caveat that if the FP spot are awarded to Finland, iceland etc we could get that representative too

[A N Mouse]

Party saint has it spot on. I expect the 3 FP spots to go to the Northenr countries. In the last rankings the top 4 were; Norway, Finland, Holland and Iceland.

If somehow Ireland got the spot, UCD would get the place (FAI have announced this). And yeah, our joint co-efficient would be divided by 5 instead of 4 because of that. UCD wouldn't be seeded

The Pats/Bohs bit just meant that I think we'll still get one of the teams listed, with the caveat that if the FP spot are awarded to Finland, iceland etc we could get that representative too

Apologies. I'd like to blame the drink.

Course I noticed the list after I posted (nothing to do with partysaint ). No idea how I thought the second sentence refered to the first.

EDIT
Have the rankings ever changed between january and the end of the season? Or how unlikely is it that ucd will be in europe?

[Dodge]

Well Ireland was 13th, so we'd need to over take 10. I thinmk thats unlikely. Can't see how the summer nations would change too much since then so we'd still be behind, at least, Norway, Finland and Iceland. I'm mostly guessing though as I haven't really followed it

[Dodge]

Actually, just had a quick look there.

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/...7_DOWNLOAD.pdf

At the intermediate point in 2010/11 (ie 31 dec 2010) the top 10 were

Norway
England
Sweden
Ireland
Germany
Denmark
Iceland
Finland
Spain
France



http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/...0_DOWNLOAD.pdf

When the final rankings published, the top 10 read


Norway
England
Sweden
Denmark
Iceland
Germany
Ireland
Finland
Holland
France

So the top 3 stayed the same and we actually dropped 3 places. You can the top ten at the this seaosn intermediate point here;
http://www.uefa.com//MultimediaFiles...3_DOWNLOAD.pdf

Norway
Finland
Holland
Iceland
Spain
Germany
France
Sweden
England
Denmark

Spain the only country with realistic chance of breaking the 'Northern' monopoly

[DaveyCakes]

Good weekend for Rovers in terms of their chances of being seeded.

Dacia are still 1 point ahead in Moldova with 5 games to go

Metalurgi Rustavi are now 2 points ahead in Georgia with 5 games to go

Korona Kielce are now only 2 points off top with 2 games to go in Poland but there are 4 teams ahead of them so not looking likely that they will win the league

Sheriff have overtaken Dacia in Moldova...2 points clear with 4 matches left

[PartySaint]

Only saw tonight that that is good news for Pats. Happy Days

[SkStu]

Only saw tonight that that is good news for Potts. Happy Days

Fixed.

[A N Mouse]

Fixed.

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhh!

[redobit]

The NerdOmeter must go off the scale for this thread.

[Dodge]

The NerdOmeter must go off the scale for this thread.

yeah, all the cool kids just post snipy messages on internet forums

[redobit]

yeah, and nerds always think a post is a snipe when actually it was more like an approval

[Dodge]

So you admit you're a nerd then. We're all agreed.

[redobit]

Haha. Na, Im the cool kid, youre the one who thought the post was a snipe. lol

[JayC90]

Metalurgi Rustavi came from 2-1 behind to win 3-2 against Merani Martvili earlier today, while Zestafoni have just lost 1-0 to Dinamo Tbilisi after conceding a goal in the last minute. This leaves Rustavi 5 points ahead with 4 games left and firmly in the driving seat ahead of their home tie against Zestafoni on Sunday i.e. good for Rovers.

[Bawnville Hoop]

Metalurgi Rustavi came from 2-1 behind to win 3-2 against Merani Martvili earlier today, while Zestafoni have just lost 1-0 to Dinamo Tbilisi after conceding a goal in the last minute. This leaves Rustavi 5 points ahead with 4 games left and firmly in the driving seat ahead of their home tie against Zestafoni on Sunday i.e. good for Rovers.

It is great news. If they win it and Bayern win the final we don't need to rely on Moldova (or any other league for that sake.)

Zestafoni are bottling it worse than Rovers run in 2010!