European Football 2012

[ger121]

The opposite in my opinion. First of all, one team in the round will advance to round 3 and a round 1 team replacing (who will be unseeded). That is if someone wins the champions league who have qualified for it anyway in their league..

You also have Ludogorets in Bulgaria level on points, ranked lower than us. (Millionaire pumping money in to them lately)

Irony Kiryat Shmona of Israel are 10 points ahead, ranked lower than us.

Torpedo are closing the gap in Georgia and Quarabag of azerbaijan are 5th, 9 points behind (ranked lower)

If all leagues were to finish today, Rovers will be seeded.

To add to this, the teams 4th & 5th in the Slovakian league are only 2 & 3 points behind Zilina. Both these teams are ranked below Rovers.

That team in Bulgaria have done back to back promotions and would therefore only get the national ranking which is 2 point something

[Dodge]

http://european-football-statistics.co.uk/ecr40.htm We are better according to statistics. They site was better before done the last 25 years instead of 42 years.

You're using making up stats from a makey up website, to try and out-statistic the only statistic that matters; ties won

Wow

[citybone]

you are neglecting 5 draws since 2005 but ya you have done very well in Europe.

There were 9 wins since 1989 but co-efficient looks back 5 years and our most successful spell in Europe was 2004-2008

[Dodge]

I neglected nothing. Cork have won 4 ties in ranking European competitions in their history. Pats have won 6 in the last 4 years

If you want to talk about individual legs Cork have won 6 and drawn 5 since they were founded. In the same period Pats have won 7, and drawn 6

So whatever way you dress it, you've no grounds to make any claims about Cork's co-efficient

[El-Pietro]

you are conveniently excluding intertoto cup results of course - you are right to say that they don't count for coefficient but they hardly don't matter at all

[Dodge]

He brought up co-efficient, so what else should I talk about?

[Hitman]

He brought up co-efficient, so what else should I talk about?

Zimbrau Chisinau?




Sorry.

[El-Pietro]

He brought up co-efficient, so what else should I talk about?

yeah thats fair enough

still - I think we had won the joint most amount of European ties of any Irish team before last summer. Obviously Pats and Rovers will have overtaken us since

[Dodge]

Overall Pats, Cork, Shels and Rovers have all won 7. Bohs on 6

Not including inter toto; Pats, Shels and Rovers on 6, Dundalk and Bohs on 5, Cork on 4

I wasn't saying Cork had a poor record btw, far from it. Its just not true to say there's is better than Pats. Including inter toto, only 7 times have Irish sides won through 2 rounds in Europe. Pats have done it the last 3 times

[El-Pietro]

impressive record given our short history

Pats last few years have been something special alright

we won through 2 rounds in 04 and 05 I believe

so between us we make up 5 of the 7 times? does Rovers from last year count? Shels when they played Depor would be another

[Dodge]

Sorry that was a typo. It's

Dundalk in 79
Cork in 04 and 05
Shels in 04
Derry in 06
Pats in 08, 09 and 11
Rovers in 11

9 times in total.

[El-Pietro]

so only Pats and City have done it more than once, and we were the first team to ever do it more than once is what you are saying!

[Dodge]

Yes, I'm saying Pats are the only team to do it twice in real European competitions and have actually done it three times as many as any other team

[citybone]

Yes, I'm saying Pats are the only team to do it twice in real European competitions and have actually done it three times as many as any other team

The first qualifying round of the Europa League is a direct replacement for the Intertoto cup so your progress is equivalent of Cork City's Intertoto cup run, but Cork City's intertoto cup run was not counted in Coefficient ranking.

[Dodge]

It is not a direct replacement. For example this year the LOI has 2 teams in the first round, it never had 2 in the intertoto

Likewise some nations didn't enter the intertoto

And if you want to talk progress in 2009, Pats actually made it to the 4th round as they received a bye in round 1

Any other ways you want me to prove you wrong or can you just accept Cork arent the greatest European team of all time?

[adamd164]

I'm just pleased Dodge admits we were founded in 1984

[bullit]

Great recognition for the LOI tonight as Pat Sullivans goal for Shams V Partizan Belgrade wins TV moment of the year at the IFTAs (aka the Irish film & TV Oscars)

[Dunny]

Fair play, thought the ROI qualifying would have got it, or was that in a different category?

[bullit]

It was in that category alright,the nominations were


· Barack Obama Addressing Ireland from College Green
· Ireland beat Estonia and qualify for the European Championships
· Ireland v Australia - Rugby World Cup
· Irish teen Damien McGinty Wins The Glee Project
· President Michael D. Higgins’ Inauguration Speech from Dublin Castle
· Queen Elizabeth II Speech at Dublin Castle State Banquet
· Rory McIlroy’s Major Breakthrough
· Rose of Tralee goes Hip Hop
· Shamrock Rovers Europa League Qualifying Goal
· Stephen Fry’s guest appearance on Ros na Rún

The vote was open to the public and may have been the subject of some(alleged) manipulation But look at some of the gay stuff that didn't win

[bennocelt]

· Irish teen Damien McGinty Wins The Glee Project
·
· Shamrock Rovers Europa League Qualifying Goal
· Stephen Fry’s guest appearance on Ros na Rún

Glee, whats that? Looking at the nominations i thinks its deserved TBH, but Fry on RnR is cool