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Thread: Republic of Ireland V Czech Republic - Wednesday, 29th February 2012 - Friendly

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    Delighted with the end to that.

    So we have ended up learning a thing or two.
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    I didn't know Cox had that kind of finish in him. The extent to which they played around us at times is a bit worrying with the likes of Croatia and Spain in mind though.

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    usually they don't have names on their jerseys except for in tournaments.

    the players were numbered from 1 to 17 or so and then skipped up to 23,24,25,26.

    does anyone think this is trap saying 1 to 17 are certain picks and theres a couple of spaces up for grabs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_denilson View Post
    Damn you tc, you're ahead of my stream.....
    or a quicker typer! ( actually I guess you might have saw my post before you saw the goal, so sorry if I spoiled it for you)
    it was this stream http://sharpstreams.yolasite.com/stream-2.php by the way, very good quality so
    it may well have been ahead of some of the others.

    (it showing the england game now)

    (judging by the game which is on ITV, which I have on as well, the stream has about a 10 second lag, which is pretty good,
    some have a lag of a few minutes)
    Last edited by tricky_colour; 29/02/2012 at 8:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    Delighted with the end to that.
    So we have ended up learning a thing or two.
    I learned that George Hamilton is a class act - best of health to him - somehow my stream had al-jazeera film and George and Ronnie commentary (??)
    They knew it wasn't going out live - you could hear them giving it all the 'Dublin we'll do the promos for you now..wait until the announcer finishes' stuff at the end - but it was top class stuff.
    Actually, this post has more holes in it than Ireland's defence tonight.
    What were those 3 clowns doing for the Czech goal??????

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    McClean did his chances no harm at all, but the area of concern is at CM, we were so poor there that when Green came on he plugged a few gaps and improved the situation.
    The defensive lapse, primarily by O'Shea (imo), was just that - a bad lapse, in an otherwise sound defensive performance from the back 4.
    Overall we defended well and just tried to have a nuisance factor elsewhere. We finished well, benefitted from the battling physical presence of the subs and no small amount of skill from Cox.

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    I thought it was Ward that got sucked into ball watching (that sounds wrong) and forgot to track the eventual scorer's goal - it was O'Shea, was it? really bad -I was training a pack of 15 year olds earlier today and they wouldn't do that. (well, actually, they would, but you get my point)

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    McClean did his chances no harm at all, but the area of concern is at CM, we were so poor there that when Green came on he plugged a few gaps and improved the situation.
    The defensive lapse, primarily by O'Shea (imo), was just that - a bad lapse, in an otherwise sound defensive performance from the back 4.
    Overall we defended well and just tried to have a nuisance factor elsewhere. We finished well, benefitted from the battling physical presence of the subs and no small amount of skill from Cox.
    the 2 cms started well i thought and then faded to being almost completley anonymous in the second half. andrews impressed me in the first with his eagerness to get forward and better than usual passing, he also deserves credit for creating the goal out of nothing. the descision to bring on green rather than mccarthy is crazy. other than that you cant complain to much bout the subs although i would of brought more of the youngsters on personally. great finish from cox. dreadful defending for their goal. boring boring match, waste of time really. mcclean was very composed on the ball

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    Quote Originally Posted by born2bwild View Post
    I learned that George Hamilton is a class act - best of health to him - somehow my stream had al-jazeera film and George and Ronnie commentary (??)
    They knew it wasn't going out live - you could hear them giving it all the 'Dublin we'll do the promos for you now..wait until the announcer finishes' stuff at the end - but it was top class stuff.
    Actually, this post has more holes in it than Ireland's defence tonight.
    What were those 3 clowns doing for the Czech goal??????
    Had the same one myself.

    Uninspiring performance generally. Cox's goal was the obvious highlight. Great work from Andrews and himself with a lovely finish to top it off. Were there two nutmegs or just the one involved? Thought McClean was lining up for a top-corner dream debut goal at the end. Looked energetic when he came on but frustrating not to have seen more of him. You can't really gauge a player's worth from ten or fifteen minutes at the end of a game. We all know what Hunt can bring. As for bringing Green on, I dunno. Is there a serious chance Green will be on the plane to Poland? That's worrying. The goal we conceded was a result of some abysmal defending. Can't imagine it would have happened with Dunne in there. Not sure if we've learned much from this but at least we didn't lose at home and the unbeaten record continues. That's good for morale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by born2bwild View Post
    I thought it was Ward that got sucked into ball watching (that sounds wrong) and forgot to track the eventual scorer's goal - it was O'Shea, was it? really bad -I was training a pack of 15 year olds earlier today and they wouldn't do that. (well, actually, they would, but you get my point)
    It was O'Shea's responsibility to cover Baros. But it's par for the course here to blame Ward for anything and everything

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe_denilson View Post
    I predict a 1-1 draw.

    Robbies withdrawn role will see us fail to get enough men in the box. McGeady will frustrate and give away the ball in promising positions too much. The defence will do well as a whole but 1 mistake from Ward or O'Shea will see the Czechs score.

    Hopefully our goal will come from a midfielder, as we need to offer more of a threat from there. The game will peter out when subs disrupt the flow of the game around the 70-75 minute mark.

    Optimism.......
    I wasn't far off !!!

    A few things to work on:
    1. Shay really has room for improvement on his kickouts, a couple of times they went straight out of play.
    2. We still don't value possession as much as some of our continental friends. We do create a lot of chances on the break, and I don't want to compromise that, but maybe we should play the percentages a bit more, playing it back to ensure possession some of the times.

    Fans won't of learnt a lot, maybe Trap has. Suprised McCarthy didn't get a game after Trap had been talking about him. Maybe he's sees him in a 5 man midfield defending a lead.

    Didn't do any damage to rankings, will be 19th ahead of Bosnia or 20th if Mexico beat Colombia.

    He avoided an unwarranted media frenzy by giving McClean a few minutes, he did well. Unfortunately I don't think he'll be given the chance to be the bolter we all would like to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    It was O'Shea's responsibility to cover Baros. But it's par for the course here to blame Ward for anything and everything
    sledger was tracking his run across the goal then left him to go to the ball and o'shea went straight for the ball aswell. a bit of simple communication is all that was required. easy stuff

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    In that helter skelter situation I think it's down to instinct not communication.

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    both of their instinct was to go for the ball if there had been a shout maybe one could have stopped. sledge looked like he was gonna track the runner then suddenly stopped, if o'shea had of shouted he was going for the tackle maybe sledge would of stayed with baros

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    In that helter skelter situation I think it's down to instinct not communication.
    Probably a bit of both. If I'd been any of the 3 defenders around the passer, you'd have to be aware that an opposition player must be free. So close down the passer as much as possible, give away a free kick if necessary, just don't let him get a pass away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the bear View Post
    usually they don't have names on their jerseys except for in tournaments.

    the players were numbered from 1 to 17 or so and then skipped up to 23,24,25,26.

    does anyone think this is trap saying 1 to 17 are certain picks and theres a couple of spaces up for grabs?
    I'm guessing they were numbered based on position and order in which they were called up. The initial numbered list would have included those players who were originally selected and then dropped out of the squad due to injury. I assume that's why McClean would have been numbered 26, for example.

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    Missed the first half. Doesn't sound like I missed much.

    Dreadful defending for their goal, very uncharacteristic of us, don't think we'll make a habit of it.

    Andrews did well for the goal and a fantastic finish from Cox.

    Nice to see McClean on for a while. Not particularly surprised it wasn't longer. However Ray Houghton banging on about it for 45 minutes was easily the most irritating aspect of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    I'm guessing they were numbered based on position and order in which they were called up. The initial numbered list would have included those players who were originally selected and then dropped out of the squad due to injury. I assume that's why McClean would have been numbered 26, for example.
    makes sense danny, i don't remember seeing it happen before

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    I didn't find the game boring despite our lack of quality with passing the ball and holding possession, I have a soft spot for the technical ability of the Czechs, seems not to matter what team they manage to put out, their players are technically proficient.
    Pity we have no more games until just before the Euros.

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    My ratings.

    Given 6 - Didn't see anything from him.
    O'Shea 7 - Like the entire backline, he was at fault for the goal. Otherwise, he was very good.
    St Ledger 8 - A real commanding performance from him once again.
    O'Dea 7 - A few decent tackles, definitely seems to have staked a claim as our first choice back-up.
    Ward 5 - I thought he was very poor. No composure and his work rate was pathetic, so much so that McGeady spent most of the match covering for him.
    Duff 6 - Didn't see enough of the ball.
    Whelan 6.5 - Fairly solid and unspectacular.
    Andrews 8 - Got forward, tracked back, made some wonderful passes and has an incredible engine. MOTM for me.
    McGeady 7 - Before he came off, McGeady was involved in nearly everything we created. A few stray passes/crosses though.
    Keane 6.5 - Started well, but faded as the service dried up.
    Long 5 - Didn't look fit to me.

    Green 6 - He put himself about, didn't do much wrong.
    Hunt 5 - Very frustrating yet again - seems to have gone backwards.
    Walters 6 - Put himself about, held the ball up a few times. Average.
    Cox 7 - Great work rate and a dazzling goal. What a find this guy has been.
    McClean 6 - Didn't really get a chance.

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