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    That eligibility should be first and foremost about the want and desire to play for a country obviously the papers and qualification are involved in the process and procedure but the kernel of eligibility in the sense being able to play for ireland is desire. The rest will follow.

    its unlikely we will get an iranian with desire to play for ireland who could not in fact because he didn't have the papers for example.

    as fans and irishmen that's how we should see eligibility. granted I'm all for shoe-Horning in a paul Gascoigne or potential tally Dan crowley
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    Just saw a comment on Facebook under an article about Crowley. It states that all his family are from Waterford and he played Gaelic football with Roger Casement's in Coventry as a kid.

    He's clearly really, really English though if he's packed in the Gaelic for the Garrison game!

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    That is not what it sounds like at all and that is not what our compatriots in England think either. Wake up and smell the coffee. He doesn't want to alienate the Irish side incase things dont work out with England. Some seem to have a very insular or perverse method of thinking when it comes to these players.

    He is theirs to lose.
    The lad has just turned 17. Of course he's not going to slam any doors shut because he presumably doesn't know who he wants to play with.

    Maybe it's you that is doing too much perverse thinking about 'these players' if you expect a kid to have a concrete sense of identity and take the definitive and brave decision to switch his allegiance back to Ireland so lightly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    its unlikely we will get an iranian with desire to play for ireland
    Don't tell that to Neil Yadolahi!

    Where is he playing these days anyway?

    Isn't what you say all fairly obvious though. I mean, would you really expect any able footballer who wasn't either Ireland-born or of immediate Irish heritage (a non-national, in other words) to have a serious interest in representing us? Where's the debate exactly? I suppose, if the League of Ireland was had stronger pedigree with greater pulling power, maybe you'd get the odd foreign-born player coming through the ranks, blossoming into a player of potential international ability and acquiring Irish nationality (akin to Diego Costa acquiring Spanish nationality or Eduardo acquiring Croatian nationality).

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    Englishman Mitch Hancox tends to naturalise and become a full international in my Football Manager game. Might be worth a look.

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    Crowley will choose Ireland, according to his former GAA coach: http://balls.ie/football/dan-crowley...y-for-ireland/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balls.ie
    Despite being part of the English underage set up last year, Crowley qualifies to represent Ireland by virtue of the grandparents rule. He made appearances for the Boys In Green at u-15, u-16 and u-17 level before switching allegiances last year.
    I assume none of his appearances for Ireland were competitive then? Actually, have any of his appearances for England to date been competitive?

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    Very positive things coming from his former GAA coach, by the way. Might Paul's 100 per cent record of being right on everything be ever-so-slightly under threat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    I assume none of his appearances for Ireland were competitive then? Actually, have any of his appearances for England to date been competitive?
    Yep, he has played competitively for England at U17 level.
    http://www.uefa.com/under17/season=2...214/index.html

    I think, but I would have to check, that he played U16 for Ireland in the same season. Effectively, however, as far as eligibility rules are concerned, he didn't play at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Very positive things coming from his former GAA coach, by the way. Might Paul's 100 per cent record of being right on everything be ever-so-slightly under threat?
    Not at all. Even when he's wrong (which is often), Paul is right.

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    No charwin you're having an episode again. That's you.

    that one time about seamie I was wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    That is not what it sounds like at all and that is not what our compatriots in England think either. Wake up and smell the coffee. He doesn't want to alienate the Irish side incase things dont work out with England. Some seem to have a very insular or perverse method of thinking when it comes to these players.

    He is theirs to lose.
    I will say that Crowley still hasn't reverted to us. But I'll bump this post anyway.

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    And if Mr. Crowley turns out to be an Arsenal wonderkid and plays for Ireland then I will gladly accept I was wrong.

    IF he and grealish end up in the first division or lower premiership without much prospect and turn out for Ireland, I will not be surprised either.

    This lad probably does have a bit more about his Irish "credentials", but lets wait and see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    IF he and grealish end up in the first division or lower premiership without much prospect and turn out for Ireland, I will not be surprised either.
    Paul predicts statistically highly probably event. A career as an astrologist or psychic medium beckons

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    Tbf his middle paragraph about Crowley and Grealish is about right. Somehow, we need a lot more than that.

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    No, its as simple as it sounds stutts, what happened that bramford fella anyway? Being seduced by chelsea first team talk and lots of transfer speculation, and he no longer plays with us. Someone will paint a different picture but he is no longer with us either.

    My point is simple, if these lads play top football for top clubs I don't believe they will line out for Ireland. If they aren't playing at the very top then they are less likely to get selected for England and will obviously then line out for us. Its pretty simple nothing to do with predicting an event like them not making it.
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    The irony is Bamford probably won't play for either then...like numerous other 'candidates'.

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    Bamford only played for us once, while he was at Nottingham Forest, and didn't continue to. You can't say he was ever 'with' us.

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    But as Trap would have said, he can still 'come with us.'

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