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    Patrick Bamford

    Patrick Bamford of Nottingham Forest - is he one of ours guys??
    he made his second apperance today , he is a striker

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    played for the England U18s against Italy last year: http://www.thefa.com/England/mens-u1...=ts&mid=162822
    All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time on twitter and facebook

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    Bamford is a name of English origin as well?

    http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Bamford

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    My work mate just shown me today's star - he played for us in june 2010 then played 2 friendlies for England but they drop him for the qualifers so he is available to play for us...

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    he did play for the U18s against the Ukraine in August 2010: http://www.fai.ie/international/yout...y-ukraine.html
    Had a penalty saved at one-nil too

    After I saw the entry on the FA's site, I didn't check fai.ie
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    Think he has made his choice which is fair enough to play for the uk best of luck to him

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    Think he has made his choice which is fair enough to play for the uk best of luck to him

    What???

    Anyway, he's on Twitter, sure one of us can just ask him.

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    I appear to have a few mutual friends with him on Fcack, he's still very young by the looks of it and may well only be getting a look in due to 9 injuries.

    Does have a picture training with Ireland though with a caption under it saying something a long the lines of "long story..."

    I wouldn't be counting on him!

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    Teenage striker Patrick Bamford has joined Chelsea from Nottingham Forest for an undisclosed fee.
    "We lost because we didn't win"- Ronaldo

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    This is a bit odd, no? 1.5 million quid for a lad with only a couple of appearances to his name who would be on a free in the summer.

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    So he's English again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yard of Pace View Post
    This is a bit odd, no? 1.5 million quid for a lad with only a couple of appearances to his name who would be on a free in the summer.

    'Money-laundering' ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    'Money-laundering' ?
    Well, this was the last day Forest could command a fee for him, right? And there's no mention of any other club being interested? So Chelsea shelled out 1.5m for him to join their reserves. Sounds well dodgy to me.

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    Or... they foresaw him breaking into the Forest team and didn't want to get involved in a bidding war with other clubs. They'd have had to pay a fee either way via tribunal which would be much higher if he was a success (they'll pay up to 6.5 million for Sturridge) so it seems like a fairly conservative gamble. Hardly sounds dodgy at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Or... they foresaw him breaking into the Forest team and didn't want to get involved in a bidding war with other clubs. They'd have had to pay a fee either way via tribunal which would be much higher if he was a success (they'll pay up to 6.5 million for Sturridge) so it seems like a fairly conservative gamble. Hardly sounds dodgy at all.
    He's only played 2 games and they could easily have given him a nod and a wink and told him they'd see him in the summer. Couldn't he have signed a pre-contract agreement anyway?
    Let me have my conspiracy theory, please

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    A pre-contract agreement would still leave them with a tribunal anyway which could be more costly.

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    If Forest are letting him go he can't be very good!!

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    This kid has got real potential, according to a few people I know who get to Forest academy games and one and a half million pounds of Abramovich's money.

    He has ripped up the FA Youth Cup, scoring five against Wigan's academy before scoring another four against Southampton's youngsters in the following round. That was the last time he wore a Forest shirt.

    Basically, collectively Forest have dropped a bollock.

    Billy Davies was a very fine football manager for us, but he had no time for the youth academy and took a very short-term view on the playing staff as much as he could. So we stuck with established players and loaned more in when we were running low, rather than turning to the academy.

    Bamford was not training with the first team squad for the first few months of the season under McClaren and that, apparently, did not go down very well. Especially in contract negotiations, with his father being a bit miffed that at 18 he wasn't becoming more involved in the set up.

    Anyway, Steve Cotterill started to have him train with the first team squad and even gave him a couple of run outs, but no more than that. Despite Forest failing to score for seven or eight games on the spin at one stage, and only scoring in three of the last 15 games or something, Cotterill told the local press the best thing for Bamford's development would be to go on loan to a League Two side.

    Enter Chelsea, who are keen to add young home-based players. They make their interest known to Bamford's family and his head is turned. The only thing in this situation which a Championship team could offer that Chelsea could not is the prospect of immediate first team football, but given we've just not used him despite our strikers misfiring, that wasn't on the table.

    While we could have hung around until the end of the season and let it go to a tribunal, taking the £1.5m was the best option. Chelsea only paid Man City £3.5m for Dan Sturridge, who at 19 had already played quite a few Premier League games and had been selected by England at a number of youth levels. To the tribunal, Bamford would be a kid with a couple of sub appearances in the second tier, so we wouldn't have seen near £1.5m.

    If we'd given him a chance he might have stayed, but we haven't and in modern football these young lads are a valuable commodity.

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