The Emigration Thread

**Mr A** · 26/01/2012, 9:50 AM

I have no problem whatsoever with what Noonan said because it was 100% true. The reaction to it has yet again highlighted the utterly crap standard of opposition and reporting in this country. It also highlighted once again that there a lot of people out there who like to feel offended.

**bennocelt** · 26/01/2012, 10:30 AM

Argh!!!!
I think a lot of people need to get off their high horse
No one is arguing about the actual facts of the matter, even if the numbers are small. I am arguing why there is a need for him (and ye) to use this argument at all. Whats your/the motivation. Yeah we know some people leave Ireland for a trip or a change but to IGNORE the majority who are leaving for work is a joke and I am insulted. Why state one fact and ignore the other. He has responsibility to do something but yet he has all the smart answers.
Please for ye guys send me to the link where he discusses the real reasons for the spike in emigration. But I doubt you can find one. God, foot,ie FG love fest!!!

**pineapple stu** · 26/01/2012, 11:41 AM

And breathe...

**bennocelt** · 26/01/2012, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

And breathe...

The quicker the LOI football season starts the better........................

**peadar1987** · 13/02/2012, 6:01 PM

I wonder did anybody else seriously consider pretending to be Italian to justify their strangled little cheer when England conceded the first try yesterday...

Decided I couldn't pull it off, and instead went for the "it's only because their the underdog" defence

**horton** · 13/02/2012, 8:23 PM

Originally Posted by peadar1987

I wonder did anybody else seriously consider pretending to be Italian to justify their strangled little cheer when England conceded the first try yesterday...

Decided I couldn't pull it off, and instead went for the "it's only because their the underdog" defence

Pah, sure every Paddy knows there is only two teams to support - Ireland and whoever is playing against England, cheer away

**BonnieShels** · 13/02/2012, 9:34 PM

I wonder why some people have this issue about supporting anyone but England?
I'm very brazen about it. Now not to an arrogant or ********ish extent, but at the end of the day they are our neighbours and the idea we have to be polite to them in a sporting context is mad. Do the Dutch support the Germans? Do the Canadians support the Yanks? Do the Pakistanis support India?
It's a natural cultural expression for most countries on the planet.
Don't get me wrong. I love England as a country. I love their people (some). I love their cities (some). I love what they have given to this country and the world (some).
But by golly do I love when they lose. Cos invariably it means I can dole out some serious stick to my Tan mates.

It annoys the hell out of me when the goody goody brigade over here start to give the "we should support England because we have matured as a nation" speech. Bullplop.

I would generally support anyone against England depending on the sport. (I would generally support them over the Aussies in anything and in Cricket generally)

Come June I will hopefully get lucky with my flights back from Poland and catch the second half of ENG v FRA and hopefully it'll mean that France are kicking their asses whilst I gracefully make my way through Heathrow.

Peadar, don't hide it next time. It's a lot of fun.

**Spudulika** · 14/02/2012, 6:18 AM

I was asked last week (or 2 weeks ago in fact) why do so many Irish fans still show up at football tournaments when Ireland aren't playing? I said it was because we enjoy sports and some people love events. The next question was - in the last World Cup who did you support? And right away I said - whoever England were playing against, and France the same. It was accepted easily. When you have the biggest selling "newspaper" in the UK with a front page of E.A.S.Y. in relation to the group they were in, how can you like such arrogance when their national team is a load of cack. The Irish (West Brit sleeper brigade) PC nonces will tell us, time to forgive and forget, but these are the same clowns who'll say - I don't like sport. Twaddle, and not the GB gymnastic variety.

Back in 1996 I was sitting with friends in a bar in Canada, after a league match, and the barman tuned in to the World Cup of Hockey. Canada - USA and everybody waited to see what was going to happen. Within seconds of the puck being dropped a mass brawl broke out (on the ice) and the bar roared profanities at the Yanks and before this I'd thoughts the locals were easygoing. Local rivalry is normal, healthy and ultimately, the ones roaring abuse at the players all have more in common and get on well. It's only when the pc fools in the chattering classes try to interrupt with spurious nonsense that problems arise. One great thing we can say about our President is that as well as being a head in the clouds academic, he's a sports supporter. And he hates the english. Quite right too!

**BonnieShels** · 14/02/2012, 8:42 AM

I think when discussing this you should try to avoid using the English tendency to be arrogant as a stick.

I merely came at it from a neighbourly point-of-view.

**Spudulika** · 14/02/2012, 12:55 PM

:-)

**peadar1987** · 18/02/2012, 9:25 PM

I was at a graduate induction event a while back, and got talking to a girl from the Home Counties (*spit*), first of all, she was outraged that we had been made go as far north as Reading to do this thing, but secondly, she was asking me what part of the north I was from (with my not-quite-D4-but-close accent). I told her I wasn't actually from the north, but from about as far west as you can get.

So then I get:

"So what part of Wales are you from then?"
"No, not Wales, Ireland"
"No, no, Ireland is in the north"

Followed by a lengthy lecture about how Ireland is a place in the north of England you can drive to in a car.

I was reminded of it the other day by a friend asking if I was going back up north for Paddy's Day.

How there are people unemployed when people who don't know in which direction neighbouring countries lie is beyond me!

**mypost** · 18/02/2012, 10:10 PM

Was she a distant relative of Jade Goody? The woman who thought East Anglia was a country.

**peadar1987** · 18/02/2012, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by mypost

Was she a distant relative of Jade Goody? The woman who thought East Anglia was a country.

I doubt it. Judging by her accent, she'd been to a very expensive school. I suppose the location of Ireland had never cropped up in the world of polo and grouse-shooting. The class system in the UK is still something that takes some getting used to!

**DannyInvincible** · 20/02/2012, 8:35 PM

Originally Posted by BonnieShels

I wonder why some people have this issue about supporting anyone but England?

Eamonn McCann had this mildly relevant piece in the Derry Journal the other week:

Originally Posted by peadar1987

I was at a graduate induction event a while back, and got talking to a girl from the Home Counties (*spit*), first of all, she was outraged that we had been made go as far north as Reading to do this thing, but secondly, she was asking me what part of the north I was from (with my not-quite-D4-but-close accent). I told her I wasn't actually from the north, but from about as far west as you can get.

So then I get:

"So what part of Wales are you from then?"
"No, not Wales, Ireland"
"No, no, Ireland is in the north"

Followed by a lengthy lecture about how Ireland is a place in the north of England you can drive to in a car.

I was reminded of it the other day by a friend asking if I was going back up north for Paddy's Day.

How there are people unemployed when people who don't know in which direction neighbouring countries lie is beyond me!

I've encountered similar ignorance myself from a girl from outside Liverpool who thought my friend was off home to Ireland when he told her he was getting the bus up to Glasgow from Manchester for the weekend.