Bohs new manager

**born2bwild** · 31/12/2011, 6:20 PM

Originally Posted by PartySaint

Huh?? I'm beginning to think the First Division has messed with your brain

While I am not in a position to talk about another poster's brain, I fail to see why anyone would disagree with this point. It's self-evident that the more you have to raise your game the better you're going to get. Obviously playing Barca every week and getting humiliated will do nothing for you but that kind of gulf doesn't exist in the LoI, does it?
The closest point of comparison to my mind is Shams' Europa League group campaign this year....maybe that was getting past the point of diminishing returns in that after a while they were learning nothing useful?

**Martinho II** · 31/12/2011, 6:27 PM

that press release is wrong in sayin that AC played for us.. not true in the slightest.. I am very surprised that Pete Mahon wasnt asked back or John Gill.. AC made a promisin start as mgr with us in 08 but lost his way badly and at one stage we had lost eight on the bounce.. He is good as coach that is his strength and would explain why we won trophies in the middle of the last decade.. but as mgr no he falls out with everyone from fans,board & players. I wish him luck but I cant see him lastin it..Owen Heary was the preferred choice for a lot of people..

**SkStu** · 31/12/2011, 6:51 PM

Heary will be his assistant. It should help to address some of Callaghans alleged man-management deficiencies outlined on here.

Marty, Mahon? Really?? We dont want him and im pretty sure the feeling is mutual. Gill applied but Callaghan won out. His work and successes with underage players were likely what got him the job.

Good appointment in my opinion, about as good as we could have expected. Im optimistic bout this one!

**Charlie Darwin** · 31/12/2011, 7:22 PM

Originally Posted by placid casual

typical shels fan, getting the wrong end of the stick - thats what years in the 1st division will do to you I guess..
I've no wish to see the bozos expire- they are a huge source of comedy for all true Hoops fans.
But CD's creeping assertion that he wants to seea bohs team being a powerful force in the league- well sorry but that has to be questioned

Luckily I don't care what you think about anything really, so that's nice.

I never said anything about being a powerful force but I do like the rivalry.

**Longfordian** · 01/01/2012, 2:01 AM

Originally Posted by Martinho II

that press release is wrong in sayin that AC played for us.. not true in the slightest.. I am very surprised that Pete Mahon wasnt asked back or John Gill.. AC made a promisin start as mgr with us in 08 but lost his way badly and at one stage we had lost eight on the bounce.. He is good as coach that is his strength and would explain why we won trophies in the middle of the last decade.. but as mgr no he falls out with everyone from fans,board & players. I wish him luck but I cant see him lastin it..Owen Heary was the preferred choice for a lot of people..

No, he never actually played but he was registered to play for us for a while from recollection.

**outspoken** · 01/01/2012, 2:47 AM

Ye agree with u there, I heard some very wild stories about Callaghan and his budget managment.

**outspoken** · 01/01/2012, 2:30 PM

Heary did an interview with the sun recently he said he couldn't get the job because he doesn't have the required license but he would love to continue managing the u-19's and would love to be the new gaffers assistant, he also said he would like to play for another season.

**dong** · 01/01/2012, 3:04 PM

Originally Posted by BonnieShels

Insert any team name for Bohs really. bigger picture dong.

The basic premise is that the stronger your rivals the stronger your team.

Obviously the stronger the league and rivals the stronger the team that eventually wins has to be.
You wrer quite specific about Bohs though in fairness, which I feel is a rubbish argument.

**poster** · 01/01/2012, 3:45 PM

Mahon for Derry?

**Martinho II** · 01/01/2012, 7:20 PM

Originally Posted by Longfordian

No, he never actually played but he was registered to play for us for a while from recollection.

didnt know that about Callaghan being registered as a player.I assume it must have bein the first season when he was with us?

**Dunny** · 01/01/2012, 7:38 PM

Originally Posted by poster

Mahon for Derry?

Heard Mahon was retiring.

**Longfordian** · 01/01/2012, 8:08 PM

Originally Posted by Martinho II

didnt know that about Callaghan being registered as a player.I assume it must have bein the first season when he was with us?

I think so yeah, when we had about 5 players signed a few days before our first game! I think he may have been registered the following year at some point as an emergency but I'm not 100% sure on that. He was always very fit, would have done a job if needed.

**BonnieShels** · 01/01/2012, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by dong

Obviously the stronger the league and rivals the stronger the team that eventually wins has to be.
You wrer quite specific about Bohs though in fairness, which I feel is a rubbish argument.

I was quite specific about Bohs because it was Bohs and Shams that we were discussing.

**BonnieShels** · 01/01/2012, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by dong

Obviously the stronger the league and rivals the stronger the team that eventually wins has to be.<br>
You wrer quite specific about Bohs though in fairness, which I feel is a rubbish argument.

<br><br>I was quite specific about Bohs because it was Bohs and Shams that we were discussing.
But any two-bit idiot can utilise information that is discussed in one incidence and extrapolate the same information and use it to form other similar opinions. It's one of the wonderful things about human cognitive thought.

**dong** · 01/01/2012, 11:45 PM

Yeah but I'm sh1t at extrapolating.

**marinobohs** · 03/01/2012, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by dfx-

Why the hell wouldn't you want that...

I hope Bohs are squashed into the floor and I'm sure there's no Bohs fan who would wish otherwise..

Bohs fans hoping their club is squashed into the floor ? Congrats DFX on the most bizarre rubbish on FOOT.IE in a long time.

Meanwhile back in the grown up world, while we all enjoy rivals misfortune most of us want a strong competitive League. The loss to the Premier Division of Derry, Cork Shels, and shams in recent years did nothing to improve the division or the publicity the Premier Division attracts. Whatever distain/dislike we have for local rivals we need them there - even if its only to "hate" for 90+ mins. Its not rocket science.

**Dodge** · 03/01/2012, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

The loss to the Premier Division of Derry, Cork Shels, and shams in recent years did nothing to improve the division or the publicity the Premier Division attracts

Didn't hurt it either. Basically the make up of the league has no effect on the general population. Individual clubs and their catchment areas are affected but they've little impact on those around them. Drogheda had their biggest success (and consquently biggest crowds) in 2007 when Dundalk and Shels were in the first division. Did they care?

Did Cork's absence from the top flight affect the publicity Rovers have gotten over the past two seasons? not even a little bit...

On Callaghan, he was only with Pats a short time but he's one of those people who are reknowned 'good coaches' (like Croly, Eamon Collins etc). Rarely make brilliant managers but he has his badges and heary doesn't so it could all just be a title swap

**marinobohs** · 03/01/2012, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Didn't hurt it either. Basically the make up of the league has no effect on the general population. Individual clubs and their catchment areas are affected but they've little impact on those around them. Drogheda had their biggest success (and consquently biggest crowds) in 2007 when Dundalk and Shels were in the first division. Did they care?

Did Cork's absence from the top flight affect the publicity Rovers have gotten over the past two seasons? not even a little bit...

On Callaghan, he was only with Pats a short time but he's one of those people who are reknowned 'good coaches' (like Croly, Eamon Collins etc). Rarely make brilliant managers but he has his badges and heary doesn't so it could all just be a title swap

Agree to disagree on impact of "bigger" clubs Dodge, Drogs biggest success was on a huge (unsustainable) budget - success always attracts "supporters". Lots of factors influence crowds but higher profile clubs do affect gates.

Besides, hardly a stretch to suggest that Drogs crowds would have been even bigger had they gone head to head with a successful Dundalk side.

Suspect you may be right about Callaghan/Heary partnership. Probobly more 50/50 than manager, Asst manager. Most suspect that had Heary got the required badges that he would be the new manager. Not sure if they know each other (or how well) so interesting to see how relationship "gels".