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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    ....just as if the shoe was on the other foot you could be sure that yourself and many other hoops would be on here telling us (again) how Shams are not responsible for actions of one/few people outside the ground ? (or indeed inside the ground, on the pitch, on someone elses pitch ........)
    of course Rovers are responsible for what goes on in the ground, thats just a stupid comment. outside, rovers have a limited responsibility as its up to the Garda to control the public(case in point, your shower of knackers up in Longford or was that the Longford board that was forced to use pepper spray on them?). Idiots that attend our games are dealt with by the club in the correct manner, dispite what you and others may think.

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    Can everyone just stop biting on what askmehoop says? Lets not turn this thread into another b!tchfest, it's been done before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by horton View Post
    Can everyone just stop biting on what askmehoop says? Lets not turn this thread into another b!tchfest, it's been done before.
    A few dozen posts and nothing positive said yet about the Setanta cup!
    I am a big fan of the competition, it is the one sporting contest that brings together all classes and creeds of sports followers on this Island and bar a few minor incidents , it has been a real success. eg we got great welcomes in Coleraine a few years ago and in Crusaders the other night. 6/700 Derry fans go to Linfield and no trouble to speak of, Drogheda fans socialising with Linfield fans when they were in the final etc etc.
    Far bigger news than some Knackers breaking into coaches, or robbing handbags, its as as if this doesnt happen every day of the week in Phibsboro, Tallaght, Cranmore etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sligoman
    Where does it say it does? Club are offering to pay cleaning, replace the stuff stolen and make a donation to charity. What else can we do, go back in time and stop it from happening?(maybe mypost has a time machine on his spaceship we could borrow?) We can only try and stop things happening again at future games
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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    "The common denominator in crowd trouble is Shamrock Rovers fans"....

    ....even when the nearest Shamrock Rovers fan is 200 kilometres away from crowd trouble.

    Why did you bring that up?
    Nobody was linking Shamrocks to trouble (in this instance) as far as i can see. Your just defending something that nobody accused you of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalymountrower View Post
    A few dozen posts and nothing positive said yet about the Setanta cup!
    I am a big fan of the competition, it is the one sporting contest that brings together all classes and creeds of sports followers on this Island and bar a few minor incidents , it has been a real success. eg we got great welcomes in Coleraine a few years ago and in Crusaders the other night. 6/700 Derry fans go to Linfield and no trouble to speak of, Drogheda fans socialising with Linfield fans when they were in the final etc etc.
    Far bigger news than some Knackers breaking into coaches, or robbing handbags, its as as if this doesnt happen every day of the week in Phibsboro, Tallaght, Cranmore etc.
    ...Anyhow, I always had a gra for SETANTA Cup and remember a slight twinge of envy in the first few seasons when Bohs decided not to compete (AKA did not qualify).
    Admititedly the ever changing format has not helped and the Monday night date/time is awful but trips to Linfield, Glentoran, Portadown etc have all been enjoyable and incident free off the pitch.

    I think this years format is best so far, and while crowds are still very disappointing I would hope some LOI/IL format remains (anyone recall the Tylers All Ireland Cup ? Think it was early 80's ?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    ...Anyhow, I always had a gra for SETANTA Cup and remember a slight twinge of envy in the first few seasons when Bohs decided not to compete (AKA did not qualify).
    Admititedly the ever changing format has not helped and the Monday night date/time is awful but trips to Linfield, Glentoran, Portadown etc have all been enjoyable and incident free off the pitch.

    I think this years format is best so far, and while crowds are still very disappointing I would hope some LOI/IL format remains (anyone recall the Tylers All Ireland Cup ? Think it was early 80's ?)
    I remember the Blaxnit Trophy and without wanting to send askhishoop into orbit, that competition featured the biggest football riot ever in Dublin ( there was actual hand to hand fighting as opposed to the Landowne England match ) Rovers v Coleraine, Dalymount Park ( 1969). Surprised that the competition struggled on for a few more years after that.

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    http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/soccer_irish/91410/ Shams will need a few more coming in the gate if someone like McCormack is on €2k p/w.

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    A random figure plucked out of his arse. There's no-one at Rovers on that kind of cash per week or anything like it. But it sounds good for the 'prayin for the Hoops to fook up' brigade.

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    Sportsnewsireland would be the same website that copies articles off club websites and puts their own writer's name on them. It's trash.

    There's no way he's on anything close to 2k a week. He's not even a first team player and he's supposedly getting twice as much money as any other player in the league.

    The quote from McGuinness is gas too. A man well-known for his love of clubs.

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    The biggest positive has to be the cash. For a game from last Monday night clubs would get: €10,000 for each of the defeated quarter finalists. Performance bonuses will be paid for winning (€2,000). 2,200/1,500/etc fans of which all were paying customers. Not bad for practically a nights work at the start of a season for any LOI club. When is the money paid over. Is it increments or a lump?
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    Quote Originally Posted by redobit View Post
    The biggest positive has to be the cash. For a game from last Monday night clubs would get: €10,000 for each of the defeated quarter finalists. Performance bonuses will be paid for winning (€2,000). 2,200/1,500/etc fans of which all were paying customers. Not bad for practically a nights work at the start of a season for any LOI club. When is the money paid over. Is it increments or a lump?
    i'd imagine its a lump sum when the competition is over

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    ...Anyhow, I always had a gra for SETANTA Cup and remember a slight twinge of envy in the first few seasons when Bohs decided not to compete (AKA did not qualify).
    Admititedly the ever changing format has not helped and the Monday night date/time is awful but trips to Linfield, Glentoran, Portadown etc have all been enjoyable and incident free off the pitch.

    I think this years format is best so far, and while crowds are still very disappointing I would hope some LOI/IL format remains (anyone recall the Tylers All Ireland Cup ? Think it was early 80's ?)
    yep 100% correct bout tyler cup bein early 80s..
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    Quote Originally Posted by redobit View Post
    The biggest positive has to be the cash. For a game from last Monday night clubs would get: €10,000 for each of the defeated quarter finalists. Performance bonuses will be paid for winning (€2,000). 2,200/1,500/etc fans of which all were paying customers. Not bad for practically a nights work at the start of a season for any LOI club. When is the money paid over. Is it increments or a lump?
    There was a small payment received by each club at the launch a few weeks back, not sure when the rest is paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Sportsnewsireland would be the same website that copies articles off club websites and puts their own writer's name on them. It's trash.

    There's no way he's on anything close to 2k a week. He's not even a first team player and he's supposedly getting twice as much money as any other player in the league.

    The quote from McGuinness is gas too. A man well-known for his love of clubs.
    "This fan run business model – where clubs spend within their means – appears to be the way to go League of Ireland clubs"

    The assumption that a club will never spend beyond their means just because they are "fan run" is completely bogus imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dong View Post
    The assumption that a club will never spend beyond their means just because they are "fan run" is completely bogus imo.
    Bohs have already proven this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sundance kid View Post
    Bohs have already proven this.
    Doesnt matter if the club is run by the fans or an elected committee. Bohs being the prime example of how fans can really f**k up a club (not a dig at bohs fans).To suggest that any rovers player is on that money is laughable and typical of what is classed as journalism in this country i.e make s**t up. If the board were stupid enough to throw money around like that then MON would probably be still in charge. we have improved every year, on and off the pitch, since the supporters took charge of Rovers(bar first year obviously). i completely trust those in charge to run Rovers in a manner that will only benefit the club. Can others say the same?

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    The Derry Chairman doesn't hold back on the actions of some of their supporters on Monday night.

    http://www.derryjournal.com/sport/fo...lism-1-3608116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    The Derry Chairman doesn't hold back on the actions of some of their supporters on Monday night.

    http://www.derryjournal.com/sport/fo...lism-1-3608116
    Few idiots with too much to drink no doubt, always enjoy trips to the Brandywell and have had a couple of pints before and after games with Derry fans. These clowns dont realise its the club they claim to support that have to pay the bill

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    Very honest statement from their chairman. Pity more clubs aren't as forthcoming when there are incidents involving their "fans"

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