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    Fairly harmless now that neither of us are doing spectacularly well! When we were winning things there was a fair bit of resentment over there, and probably vice versa when they were winning things though I'm too young to remember that...
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gufcfan View Post
    They just have very few fans. Their published attendance figures are inflated by a huge percentage. Mervue natives will vouch for that.

    A number of people that I would know in Mervue United for example that are fans wouldn't be posting on internet forums and have more sense than us probably. They seem to be content with an online presence consisting of a club website and a P.R.O. that writes for extratime who at times isn't far off adding a zero onto the end of their actual attendance figures. There's a few people here that would go to see Mervue, but they are Galway United fans first and foremost and probably go up there for something to do when United are away to be honest. They would be a significant % of their actual attendances.
    They don't have ANY fans! Twice I went to Drom Park (aka Mount Wilderness!) for Cork City matches. It's no lie to say that there were less than a dozen home supporters each time. For one of those, the attendance was given as 210.That included 190 City fans!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gufc2000 View Post
    Some people will always find fault no matter what. GUST offered this initiative and saw it as an incentive to get bums on seats. It worked. The season ticket would have lost value/paid for itself after 9/10 games, but people still turned up and thats encouraging.

    What GUST have done is created a hell of a lot of goodwill towards the club again, and have made some serious inroads in building the bridges that were so badly damaged in the previous regime.

    If Mervue and Salthill believe that there will be an upturn in attendances as a result of our demise, then they're greatly mistaken.
    not finding fault, im just putting your crowds in context

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    Quote Originally Posted by sullanefc View Post
    My point was that just because something is cheap, doesn't mean that a lot more people will buy it. There is a limited interest in LOI in this country. Plus, whether they sold a lot of season tickets or not, to get people in the gate to watch their team play abysmally and get hammered every week is an achievement.
    my point is that yes they had reasonable crowds, but that had a lot to do with selling the 600 season tickets before everyone knew how rubbish they were.

    once someone has paid for the ticket they are far more likely to go then they would otherwise - even if the event is free

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    Back on topic, badly need clarification on this. Its up to the FAI to land the first blow and deliver a statement. Clinging to the hope that no statement so far means the GUST lads working tirelessly to rescue the cause.

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    whatever about mervue/salthill been delighted to see galway united not supposable getting a licence as has been said on this forum ;;the FAI are forgetting about the boost it will give connacht rugby and Gaa in Galway as alot of the pepole who attended Terryland will now make there way to the sportsground on a friday night instead ,fans lost to the Beauthful game forever .

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    Quote Originally Posted by compo View Post
    They don't have ANY fans!
    True, but it wouldn't be believed coming from us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gufcfan View Post
    It's motorway the whole way there pretty much, so it's quite a handy drive.


    Sligo doesn't take all that long to get to, going up the N17. A lot of people who wouldn't tend to go to away matches make and effort to go to the derby match. Funnily enough, I was in the north for a couple of the pre-season games last year, but I haven't been to a game in Sligo for years.
    This is another myth created by GUST. Even when Galway were decent you never brought more then 50 away fans to Sligo in the past ten years expect on a handful of occasions. This year was exceptionally low for obvious reasons but 2010 it was only around the 30 mark. The year Leeson came in I remember counting 7 Galway fans on the Railway End. The constant snide remarks towards Mervue and Salthill isn't helping GUST claims of uniting Galway football either. I don't mean to be kicking you when you're down and I hope GUFC gets back in the league but there is some awful rubbish coming from the Galway camp the past few months.

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    Sean South I have to say I do remember well in excess of 50 fans at a Rovers match in Tolka Park (when Pat Scully roared at the "home" crowd for acting the maggot with the ball and Jeff Kenna kept his players in the changing room for almost 30minutes after the match). There were a fair few Galway fans scattered around the place as well as the travelling group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudulika View Post
    Sean South I have to say I do remember well in excess of 50 fans at a Rovers match in Tolka Park (when Pat Scully roared at the "home" crowd for acting the maggot with the ball and Jeff Kenna kept his players in the changing room for almost 30minutes after the match). There were a fair few Galway fans scattered around the place as well as the travelling group.
    Was that the season Galway were promoted? In fairness they brought good crowds that year but rapidly dropped off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean South View Post
    Was that the season Galway were promoted? In fairness they brought good crowds that year but rapidly dropped off.
    I was up in the Showgrounds in 07, 08 and 09, each time a respectable crowd was brought. The 08 one in particular saw circa 250 United fans travel. 07 and 09 were in and around the 100 mark

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    Wow. Just WOW.

    This thread jumped the shark about five pages ago and is now easily my favourite non adult themed thing on the internet.

    A few random thoughts without going into too much detail. (it's kinda late)


    Dual registration is not going to happen in the short to medium term at least. The junior clubs don't want it and they have far more clout than the senior clubs. The thirty quid a game suggestion is beyond silly. If the senior league wasn't such a shambles it wouldn't be an issue anyway.
    The crowds Galway would have brought argument is nonsense.
    The LoI has a LOT to learn from the GAA about youth development (among other things), it's childish to suggest otherwise. A lot of the GAA talk in this thread smacks, as usual, of sour grapes.
    The sniping at Salthill, and Mervue in particular, is really childish.
    Licencing will never be enforced seriously. It's not in anyones interest. Especially the FAI's.

    Carry On.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lim till i die View Post
    The sniping at Salthill, and Mervue in particular, is really childish.
    Everything that was said is true. Mervue and Devon are excellent clubs with top notch youth setups. I've said it 20 times in the last week, that no matter what they have done, it does not excuse their behaviour. The people who put in the real work building up those clubs are not the ones out to destroy Galway football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gufcfan View Post
    They just have very few fans. Their published attendance figures are inflated by a huge percentage. Mervue natives will vouch for that.
    They don't hate ye enough to shun your old methods then...

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    It would be interesting to see what would happen to Mervue or Salthill's attendances if they were ever to reach the Premier Division (unlikely as it is).
    I honestly presume (from my admited position of ignorance down the road) that while the old GUFC hardcore will never cross the divide both clubs would pick up a marginal increase even in the first division should GUST fail in their endeavour. EVERY area has casual football fans who just sort of drift along to maybe 6-10 games a season. It's reasonable to believe that some few of them might make a couple of trips to Mervue and/or Salthill if they become to the peak of the city's football pyramid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spudulika View Post
    I forgot Limerick (for no reason other than having made a couple of trips from Limerick to Galway 4-5 years ago I'd have thought them further away).
    Quote Originally Posted by gufcfan View Post
    It's motorway the whole way there pretty much, so it's quite a handy drive.
    As gufcfan says it's a handy, handy journey now and should GUST take a place in the first division I'd presume the needle of yesteryear between the clubs would return once more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guitd View Post
    whatever about mervue/salthill been delighted to see galway united not supposable getting a licence as has been said on this forum ;;the FAI are forgetting about the boost it will give connacht rugby and Gaa in Galway as alot of the pepole who attended Terryland will now make there way to the sportsground on a friday night instead ,fans lost to the Beauthful game forever .
    Lost forever? On Connacht's current form (and I was a regular attendee myself for a coupla years there when involved with them in some capacity so I'm quite sympathetic) I wouldn't worry about that!

    I think that Mervue and Salthill have an obligation and responsibility to Mervue and Salthill respectively long before they have one to 'Galway football' in just the same way that junior club's are perfectly entitled to grouse about losing players to senior clubs. It won't hurt Mervue or Salthill to be the top clubs in the region. Nobody in this thread has made any observation these so called tiny, junior clubs have managed to stay solvent and secure in senior football while GUFC failed manifestly to do so (excluding Terry's rumblings of Mervue's impending financial explosion obviously). Mervue and Salthill (miniscule fanbases and all) showed ambition to join senior football and should be left alone (as they clearly wish to be) to develop in their own way at their own pace. Any notion that they should merge with or otherwise embrace GUST is way off the mark. gufcfan's previous post is a much more measured one tbf to him and a better representation of the overall feeling in the GUST camp I would hope.

    That being said why have GUST been overlooked by the FAI? What's the alleged failing in their application? All I've read here (bar the GAA tangent) is lots of idle speculation and mudslinging. Entertaining stuff as someone else observed but not particularly substantive either.

    Are GUST appealing the decision? And if so, on what grounds?
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    I think the big issue is that the GUST application missed the deadline, therefore it's entirely up to the FAI whether they consider it or not. In Derry's case it didn't matter, in this case they seem to be minded not to consider it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    I think the big issue is that the GUST application missed the deadline, therefore it's entirely up to the FAI whether they consider it or not. In Derry's case it didn't matter, in this case they seem to be minded not to consider it.
    That does seem to be quite outrageous then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sadloserkid View Post
    That being said why have GUST been overlooked by the FAI? What's the alleged failing in their application? All I've read here (bar the GAA tangent) is lots of idle speculation and mudslinging. Entertaining stuff as someone else observed but not particularly substantive either.

    Are GUST appealing the decision? And if so, on what grounds?
    I have been talking to representatives of GUST and they are reluctant to say anything at all until an official statement has been released by both parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean South View Post
    Was that the season Galway were promoted? In fairness they brought good crowds that year but rapidly dropped off.
    The problem started because they were never promoted. It was bad enough that the FAI believed them, but they appear to have made the fatal mistake of believing their own propaganda... No sympathy for them whatsoever.
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