QuoteDid he (McLean) get booed ?
Yeah, was thinking the same. Anyone other than Parry and you'd think it was provocative but with him you'd think it was just poor knowledge.
Tyler may not be as bad, literally, but he always seems to take undue pride in describing a player as a British born ROI international.
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Did he (McLean) get booed ?
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
GypsyBlackCat hasn't been online in a while...Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Hate taken to a new level, amazed not closed down by FB.
https://www.facebook.com/Bootmccleanout?fref=ts
Haha, that's just weird.
Is it actually possible Parry committed not just a single but a double faux-pas in relation to James unintentionally? I don't buy it. James' background/identity is well-known in England (even outside of football circles) by virtue of the poppy/anthem "controversies" now. What Parry did struck me as a really cheap insult. If there was no sly or malicious intent behind it, fair enough, but I don't think that's plausible.
James did get booed. Reports on social media appeared to suggest it came from both home and away fans, although Darren Fletcher had spoken of West Brom fans giving him a warm, confidence-boosting vocal embrace in their first friendly back on English soil since the anthem thing in the US. WBA fans may be split.
James telling it like it is.
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
He must be transgender then
Parry's taking the p*ss, aye. And Fletcher is being diplomatic. McClean is likely to get abuse at every ground he plays in.
Fletcher is more probably just speaking his mind, it's the simple probability versus your corny attempt at mind reading
And being booed by morons at football grounds doesn't carry much moral weight, probably similar to the type of morons who threw bananas and abused black players.
I had no luck either. I think it may have been due to their willingness to "permit open and critical discussion of people who are featured in the news or have a large public audience based on their profession or chosen activities."
However, what about hate speech:
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Might be of interest: http://www.irishnews.com/news/2015/0...-chant-222393/
Indeed, I've seen footage (it's been made public so I'll link to it; it also may start playing immediately, so I'll mark it NSFW) of 'Celtic Symphony' from the Ardoyne Fleadh myself and it sounded like the whole crowd, which was fairly substantial, were chanting it. GR will, no doubt, try to have you believe that's what a "hardcore" crowd sounds/looks like!
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You are wasting you time reporting on facebook, unless it nipples forget it
This was deemed ok on a football fan forum (and it started off as an innocuous debate on a loi game)
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Not quite. it's based largely on living here and talking to Albion fans every day (rather more than you if not Fletcher). So empirical evidence, no mind-reading involved. The simple probability is that if lots of fans, social media however witless, TV commentators etc. etc. have a go at McClean, then he's pretty unpopular.Fletcher is more probably just speaking his mind, it's the simple probability versus your corny attempt at mind reading
Who mentioned morality? Not I. No argument from me about how idiotic much of the criticism of McClean is. Although once out of the Moral Maze you might realise there's a wide spectrum from childish windups (Northern Irishman from Londonderry etc) to crime (incitement to hatred, even assault).And being booed by morons at football grounds doesn't carry much moral weight, probably similar to the type of morons who threw bananas and abused black players
Do better.
Well I do have some experience of Toneless Wolves gigs (long ago) and going to school near Ardoyne (longer), but even I tire occasionally of witless spats involving the NI parties
My cousin (freelance hack in BT and heavy social media user) had one of her many accounts blocked for nudity (bit of neck, no cleavage)
People are going way over the top here! It was Man City taken the wee-wee! He's going to get it of opposition fans. The Leicester fans on Saturday were booing Adam Johnson every time he got the ball and chanting 'Peado'. He hasn't been found guilty of anything so should the LCFC be fined for their fans actions?!!! It's not as if SAFC fans can take the moral high ground! We were chanting 'She Said No Loic' at Remy last season at home to Chelsea. And remember, we (Ireland fans) booed Rangers players and former ones not so long ago. It wasn't until FIFA or UEFA told us off that we stopped it!
We still do.
After the insidious troll Alan Parry's thoroughly objectionable declaration last Monday night in respect of James' background and identity, and then Jim Boyce's hollow instruction to James since - that being to keep his politics out of football - I was stirred enough to write another piece on my blog in James' defence: https://danieldcollins.wordpress.com...-out-of-sport/
James' experiences in England appear to have unsettled a rather nasty, intolerant side to British society and I find it all very interesting how this element deals with perceived dissent or "stepping out of line" from a social Other. I also touch on a few other issues like politics in sport generally, the ills of modern football and the suppression of free expression, so feel free to have a read.
Last edited by DannyInvincible; 15/08/2015 at 5:49 AM.
No results he said it from a quick Google search. Therefore, until any evidence is produced to the contrary, stop the discussion on what Parry might have said.
Last edited by tetsujin1979; 16/08/2015 at 4:13 PM.
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