The likes of Cody Lachey and Jamie Bryson having a go at him again, as you'd expect.
Poor Lachey obviously struggles deeply with irony:
Originally Posted by Cody Lachey
It's things like that that make me kind of glad we don't have a united Ireland, and feel sorry for those of you stranded without a paddle.
And this from This Northern Soul:http://thisnorthernsoul.co.uk/forum/...y-shirt.85839/
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
For somebody who is steadfast in his refusal to wear the poppy, he's joined precisely the wrong clubs to do it. He'd be much better off in London. Still, credit due to James and Dave Whelan for addressing it publicly rather than sweeping it under the carpet. Clearly it's a matter very close to Whelan's own heart too.
But the aneurysm that the likes of Bwyson, Lachey and Frazer would get from a united Ireland would be worth everything.
Even more than any of my deeply held Nationalist beliefs.
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
It would be fun for a while but then we'd have to live with them.
Ah they'd assimilate or **** off back to Scotland.
Remember the whole chats in history about the Normans becoming more Irish than the Irish themselves. It could happen again. With you know, some delusional Irish guys.
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
The Jamies becoming more Irish than the Irish? Can't see it. They're too thick.
Who cares? Never be worse than the morons who started the problem...
Finally James has issued statement which explains his position. While it is of no shock to those who know his situation, it might stop the criticism from at least those educated enough to listen. I know Danny you vehemently disagree with me, but I feel if this statement had been released two years ago, idiots like Bryson may not have been able to continue to create political mileage out of it. Also, I feel his statement is clear and simple and shows respect for all affected by war.
By the way, this would have been a prepared statement by PR people. footballers would not be trusted to do it themselves!
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-30728095.html
Last edited by gastric; 08/11/2014 at 7:09 AM.
Nicely put danny. i agree entirely with your post. I have alot of respect for james mc clean following this.It's a sorry state of affairs when a player feels compelled to release a public statement "explaining himself" for the absence of a political symbol on his football jersey. In saying that, fair play to James for this unfortunately necessary but positive gesture and for yet again standing up to what has come to be known as "poppy fascism". Are others who might personally feel similar as brave and principled? He has often been mocked by his bitter detractors as immature, brash and even thick, but that letter is exceptionally graceful, respectful and considerate (of his club, his fans, those killed at war as well as during the Troubles, and his own community). With eloquence, intelligence and maturity, it offers as complete and thorough an explanation as should be necessary for those who still feel that non-poppy wearers should have to explain themselves for making what ought to be no more than a simple personal decision in a modern democratic society. To be honest, I found his words quite moving. It's lovely to hear a footballer speak so forthrightly and positively about what he believes in for a change. I have a great admiration for James' spirit and attitude anyway, but my respect has only grown for him this evening. Good man, James!
Last edited by Littlest Hobo; 08/11/2014 at 6:12 AM.
Never eat yellow snow!!
But do you reckon he even wrote it? And still being slagged elsewhere by unionist gimps and other fools...
No way did he write it even with the Mr whelan for authenticity. Still though the thought process was there.
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
You'd like to think so, but the media annd crediting both McClean & Whelan rather too much. Plus they still get slated by the usual morons...
There's no doubt he got a bit of help, but what's wrong with that? Doesn't even Barack Obama get assistance with conveying particular messages in his speeches? And then commended or lambasted for his words? I often have people proof-read stuff I'd write myself if I was thinking of publishing it or whatever. What is important is that he released a message of which he can be proud and by which he can stand without feeling of shame. They're words from his heart. The statement conveys James' thoughts on the matter and leaves no room for doubt. He's not as stupid as people think either.
A good few seasons back, I was heading to a Derry match away to Shels in Tolka and, on the supporters bus down, ended up sitting beside a civil young lad from Creggan whom I didn't know and who was telling me he was playing for Institute at the time. He didn't drink at all; wouldn't even take one of my cans! Obviously we chatted away for the four hours down and back. I always remembered the fella because he left a mark with me and I'd always say "alright" to him any time I saw him about Derry after that. He seemed to have taken something from the conversation as well and was interested in what I'd had to say. It only dawned upon me a few years later when he started making a name for himself in the League of Ireland that it had been James I'd been sat beside on the bus. Even back then, he had struck me as very focused, driven and disciplined. Those qualities require intelligence too.
Heh, fair enough Danny, nice story, you Doire boys on the ball as ever.
The hidden message in Danny's story is that civility in the Creggan is an almost unknown commodity.
My opinion hasn't altered about James, I had respected his opinion and moral courage over this issue. The (now) open published letter has taken it a step forward to explain his actions in more detail and the letter shall remain as a reference in any debate. It doesn't matter that much that he will still be the target for ignorance and hostility, but he should have garnered a good deal more respect for his actions and have fewer commentators and fans telling him how to act and behave, according to their beliefs.
I though it had gone down quite quietly in the press however he is on the from page of the Daily Mail today.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...red-shirt.html
However the vast majority respect his decision so it was a good move on his part.
The usual suspects, the Telegraph and Daily Mail, are making out there's some major controversy here. Has he really sparked a national fury?... No. Meanwhile, everyone else in the real world, or those with an ounce of human understanding, acknowledge that this shouldn't be such a big deal; that he is being entirely reasonable in his courage and fortitude.
Ah, they get mileage out of it even now. They'll always be out seeking to be offended by whoever's not conforming to their world-view. If it's not James, it'll be someone else they're condemning. It's how their fragile, validation-deprived egos operate. It doesn't matter what James does, so long as he sticks to his principles, as is his civic right. I mean, there should never be an obligation upon someone to explain their stance on something personal like this to uncompromising dolts of whose business it is absolutely none anyway. It would be wrong to consider this a "better late than never" statement on James' part; he never should have had to feel the need to release such a statement in the first place.
Oddly (or maybe not... he is a peculiar character), Lachey appears to have re-setup his Twitter within the past few days in preparation for this, presumably so he can, once again, leech off the back of the potential attention. Although, he did make sure to first rather desperately tweet virtually every mention he could find of himself in the media, both positive and negative, over the last few years, or ever. It's all publicity, isn't it?... How can James be liable for such unsettled behaviour?
It's there. It might be somewhat concealed under the oppressive, paranoiac and Troubled smog of the legacy of decades of surveillance and social deprivation, but it is there alright. Maybe it's unknown because people just don't want to know about it.
What, we already have them down here, they tend to wear blue shirts, ha ha
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