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    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/m...201040206.html

    This is when the spinning takes off and "communication" becomes an issue. His "F-word rant at Trappatoni", you would struggle to make this crap up, but this is what happens, and it's jumped on by the mouth breathers in the meeja. He's made himself look a right tool. At under-10's level you'd expect this, but a pro footballer? As Roy'd say "Get over it"

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    Hmm, like anyone he's entitled to his opinion.

    And due to technology, it's hard to keep a lid on it. Don't see the problem with this one;he only said as a fan, what the rest of us were thinking at the time.
    If he loses his place so be it, but even someone as stubborn as Trap should take heed of the sentiment...

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    I'd imagine McClean's intent with this tweet was to showcase that him as a player was feeling similarly upset and disappointed as the fans and used strong language to show his frustration. Probably something he thought would resonate well with the supporters.
    It shouldn't be (but it will and has) be interpreted as an attack against Trap or as venting a the fact that he didn't get to play.

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    He was just thinking what every fan was , were not in North Korea players should be able to speak their mind and not be shot down

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    He's issued an apology: https://www.twitter.com/JMcC_23/stat...97485295034368
    i apologise for my tweet last night, it was
    stupid, disrespectful and i let my frustration
    get the better of me which still aint an excuse
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    Fair play. The impetuousness of youth.

    Or stupidity? You decide...

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    Apparently his account has been deleted...

    Edit: Yeah, it's gone.
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    I hope he starts on Tuesday and then he destroy Oman - then he gets his chance against Germany but is that wishful thinking?

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    McClean should be sent home, he is being disrespectful not just to the manager but to his team mates. We have got the weakest group of players I can remember for many a long year and they act like prima donnas. Kevin 'Only my family knows which club I play for' Foley, Darron 'I love being a Man U reserve team player' Gibson - what a sad group of muppets. This campiagn was Gibson's chance and he didn't have the bottle.

    It's about representing Ireland not about yourselves. It is an honour to be called up to represent your country but no, it's all about 'me me me'.

    The players we have are second rate, Trapp rightly emphasizes a system over individuals and picks the players he thinks will best fit into that system.

    We don't have anything like the resources of England who will qualify the for World Cup but as everyone knows haven't a snowballs chance in hell of winning it. We're not making any progress in the UK / Ireland in producing players technically as good as the continent, until that happens we will have to put up with 2nd rate football regardless of who is manager.

    In some respects I don't blame the players, they are so embedded in their alternate universe they don't see how stupidly they are behaving. Joe Cole is on 100k a week for LFC, sanity does not prevail in football.

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    What system was on show last night? I didn't see one.

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    Gibson was told to go and get regular first team football, he did that not in championship but in the premier league. That still wasnt enough for Trap. When you sit on the bench and see Paul Green getting on the pitch during a major championship ahead of you your bound to take step back and think what the fook Im I doing here, I know Im not really part of your plans. You cant keep testing players to limit and think youll get no response. I would say Gibson, McLean and Wilson are probably sorry they ever declared for the team the grew up supporting. Sad sign of the times.

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    I'm fairly sure Gibson's main gripe is that he wasn't considered for the Italy match. He was probably privately relieved that Green was thrown on against Spain instead of him.

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    I was listening to Scotland v Serbia on the radio today for a bit and I heard that the Scottish full back was making his debut. A player would never get a first cap for us in a proper game under Trap no matter how compelling his club performances have been. If McClean can't start in Kazakhstan then who can he start against?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwerty View Post
    McClean should be sent home, he is being disrespectful not just to the manager but to his team mates. We have got the weakest group of players I can remember for many a long year and they act like prima donnas. Kevin 'Only my family knows which club I play for' Foley, Darron 'I love being a Man U reserve team player' Gibson - what a sad group of muppets. This campiagn was Gibson's chance and he didn't have the bottle.

    It's about representing Ireland not about yourselves. It is an honour to be called up to represent your country but no, it's all about 'me me me'.

    The players we have are second rate, Trapp rightly emphasizes a system over individuals and picks the players he thinks will best fit into that system.

    We don't have anything like the resources of England who will qualify the for World Cup but as everyone knows haven't a snowballs chance in hell of winning it. We're not making any progress in the UK / Ireland in producing players technically as good as the continent, until that happens we will have to put up with 2nd rate football regardless of who is manager.

    In some respects I don't blame the players, they are so embedded in their alternate universe they don't see how stupidly they are behaving. Joe Cole is on 100k a week for LFC, sanity does not prevail in football.
    You what now? Absolute drivel. We don't have to put up with anything like last night.
    We were shocking and there was no discernible system on show as far as I could see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I was listening to Scotland v Serbia on the radio today for a bit and I heard that the Scottish full back was making his debut. A player would never get a first cap for us in a proper game under Trap no matter how compelling his club performances have been. If McClean can't start in Kazakhstan then who can he start against?
    The closest Trap came to that was Caleb Folan. He won his first cap in the home WCQ versus Cyprus from the bench.
    Last edited by IsMiseSean; 08/09/2012 at 7:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I was listening to Scotland v Serbia on the radio today for a bit and I heard that the Scottish full back was making his debut. A player would never get a first cap for us in a proper game under Trap no matter how compelling his club performances have been. If McClean can't start in Kazakhstan then who can he start against?
    I wouldnt use Scotland as an example - a lynching party is currently being organised for Craig Levein after todays result

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I was listening to Scotland v Serbia on the radio today for a bit and I heard that the Scottish full back was making his debut. A player would never get a first cap for us in a proper game under Trap no matter how compelling his club performances have been. If McClean can't start in Kazakhstan then who can he start against?
    McClean wasn't fit. Trap as much as said he was going to start him, but how can he play him if he is tucked up in bed with a lemsip and a hot water bottle? Even if he was feeling a bit better, he hadn't taken any real part in training or any of the preparation for the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I was listening to Scotland v Serbia on the radio today for a bit and I heard that the Scottish full back was making his debut. A player would never get a first cap for us in a proper game under Trap no matter how compelling his club performances have been. If McClean can't start in Kazakhstan then who can he start against?
    That was Paul Dixon of Huddersfield, won MOTM too, although I can imagine what the reaction would be here if Trapattoni gave a defender from the lower half of the Championship his debut in a qualifier
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    McClean said he was fit.

    It's not just McClean. Trap doesnt trust Coleman, didn't trust McCarthy, and so on.

    I'm just saying that he's very cautious introducing new players but I think international football is full of examples of players being given responsibility at an early stage of their career. I can see both sides of the argument, but I'd pick a natural wide player in a wide position any day of the week over a player - who I like as it happens - who has failed to impress in the same role previously.

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    He tweeted that on Monday I think, but he didn't train, then he was sent home from training on Tuesday. They flew 5000 miles on Wednesday and presumably nobody trained.

    It's a great sign that he was that keen to play that has was saying he was fit and attempting to train when he obviously wasn't ready, but in a situation like that the coaching staff have to protect him from himself. It's impossible for us to relate to how quickly a super fit athlete can recover from a hamstring injury or groin strain, but we all know what a cold/flu is like. If your that bad on a Tuesday, your not going to be 100% by friday evening.

    Given that Trap was trying to prepare them to play in a new system (which worked out so badly I'm not really sure what it was supposed to be, but hindsight is 20:20), he had to move on and make those preparations with someone else if it looked like he wasn't going to be right.

    Can you imagine the reaction if he played him and he ran about the place looking a yard off the pace?
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