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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    it's entirely possible the message he's referring to was deleted, or was private so noone else saw it
    Geyser has quoted the neanderthal tweet verbatim.
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by drummerboy View Post
    After all it is now their birthright.
    Since when?
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Eh, since he was born.
    DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    Since when?
    The fact is that anybody born on the island of Ireland can play for the Republic of Ireland if they wish.
    Always look on the bright side of life

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    Whether he was called a fenian xxxx or a rebel xxxx, is splitting hairs.
    The operative word is xxxx.

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    all that twitters is not gold

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    Maybe it's just small minority as usual giving the rest a bad name, but I really don't see the sense or logic in professional footballers using twitter accounts; it just seems like more trouble than its worth and invariably opens themselves up for the kind of abuse McClean found himself suffering. Why give the extreme fans what amounts to a personal hotline to the player himself? Seems like madness to me, just asking for trouble ...

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    pretty much agree with that. i think my last post sums it up pretty succinctly!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by amaccann View Post
    I really don't see the sense or logic in professional footballers using twitter accounts; ..
    That's the crux of the thing there really!

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    Quote Originally Posted by amaccann View Post
    Maybe it's just small minority as usual giving the rest a bad name, but I really don't see the sense or logic in professional footballers using twitter accounts; it just seems like more trouble than its worth and invariably opens themselves up for the kind of abuse McClean found himself suffering. Why give the extreme fans what amounts to a personal hotline to the player himself? Seems like madness to me, just asking for trouble ...
    spot on, cant believe managers havent banned it by now

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    Quote Originally Posted by amaccann View Post
    Maybe it's just small minority as usual giving the rest a bad name, but I really don't see the sense or logic in professional footballers using twitter accounts; it just seems like more trouble than its worth and invariably opens themselves up for the kind of abuse McClean found himself suffering. Why give the extreme fans what amounts to a personal hotline to the player himself? Seems like madness to me, just asking for trouble ...
    They use twitter for the same reason everybody else does. Just because they're footballers doesn't mean they don't have the same range interests as everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drummerboy View Post
    I think James would be best cancelling his Twitter account. It only encourages these bigots to post their vile posts.
    On the other hand I understand how, for career reasons, he would have played for NI. It would have put him in the shop window a lot earlier. NI loss is our gain. I'm delighted that the lad will now get to play for the country he supported as a kid. He is a great ambassador for all the other nationalist kids who support the ROI up there. I hope many more of these kids go on to play for us. After all it is now their birthright.
    It always has been. Any nationalist if they wished to play for us in years gone by could have chosen to do so. I'm not sure the Gentleman's Agreement would have made any difference. The main thing that's changed over the years is that more young players are now aware of the option to play for the Republic and we are currently a more attractive proposition than we perhaps were in previous decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    They use twitter for the same reason everybody else does. Just because they're footballers doesn't mean they don't have the same range interests as everyone else.
    It's not a question of interests; it's the fact they're in a career that inevitably attracts negative (and positive of course) feedback from their ... well, customers. The public anyway. I'd point to teachers as a useful comparison here: nearly every teacher with any common sense & a social networking account blocks off their account because otherwise it just attracts problems. Footballers should do the same; it might mean a few less tabloid stories but hey-ho. Now, I know next to nothing of Twitter so perhaps it's unavoidable.

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    I don't think the criticism affects them as much as you think. All the articles about the criticism he's been getting are probably making it seem like a bigger deal than it is. He's laughed most of off and shamed a couple of people publicly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drummerboy View Post
    The fact is that anybody born on the island of Ireland can play for the Republic of Ireland if they wish.
    Yes, we know.

    It's hardly a new phenomenon.
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    Yes, we know.

    It's hardly a new phenomenon.
    Drummerboy was making a valid point. What exactly is your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Brazil View Post
    Yes, we know.

    It's hardly a new phenomenon.
    You seem like a reasonable guy NB. However you don't seem to have come to terms with whats happening. Time to get real.
    Always look on the bright side of life

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    To be fair, NB advocates an approach for the IFA that is mature, progressive and reasonable. He doesn't seek to impinge upon the rights of the FAI or Irish nationals in the slightest. He has come to terms with the reality of those rights, if ever he had difficulty with them in the first place. He merely wishes for the IFA to gauge players' ultimate ambitions before any potential selection for NI. That doesn't bother me in the slightest because whatever selection policy the IFA might wish to employ is none of my business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    To be fair, NB advocates an approach for the IFA that is mature, progressive and reasonable. He doesn't seek to impinge upon the rights of the FAI or Irish nationals in the slightest. He has come to terms with the reality of those rights, if ever he had difficulty with them in the first place. He merely wishes for the IFA to gauge players' ultimate ambitions before any potential selection for NI. That doesn't bother me in the slightest because whatever selection policy the IFA might wish to employ is none of my business.
    Thank you Danny.

    That is a fair, and accurate, representation of my position on the issue.
    The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
    But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
    Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
    And this is what we sang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    To be fair, NB advocates an approach for the IFA that is mature, progressive and reasonable. He doesn't seek to impinge upon the rights of the FAI or Irish nationals in the slightest. He has come to terms with the reality of those rights, if ever he had difficulty with them in the first place. He merely wishes for the IFA to gauge players' ultimate ambitions before any potential selection for NI. That doesn't bother me in the slightest because whatever selection policy the IFA might wish to employ is none of my business.
    Danny, Why do I always feel this guy has an agenda behind this supposedly progressive attitude? When rattled in debate, he seems to revert to stereotypical arguments. In saying this, so probably do I!

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