James McClean M Wrexham b.1989

**SkStu** · 12/02/2012, 6:28 PM

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

Like news on their eligibility and that?

**paul_oshea** · 12/02/2012, 6:31 PM

people who say politics and football don't mix don't know anything about football. Or politics.

that's not to say I don't just ignore the posts where they are mixed.

**johnnyc** · 12/02/2012, 9:07 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

people who say politics and football don't mix don't know anything about football. Or politics.

that's not to say I don't just ignore the posts where they are mixed.

I have very little interest in (and therefore knowledge of) politics. I can assure you I know quite a bit about football though, thanks very much. I'm sure quite a few of those with an interest in both topics can see the logic of a football site being primarily about football and something like politics.ie being primarily concerned with politics?

**ArdeeBhoy** · 12/02/2012, 9:15 PM

Aye, but what about the replies to your original moan on this?

And the context of where certain players come from?

**Ol� Ol�** · 12/02/2012, 9:31 PM

Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Aye, but what about the replies to your original moan on this?

And the context of where certain players come from?

Exactly. All of the discussion on McClean and his background is relevant in the context of his circumstances. Discussion on these matters seems to pertain mostly to McClean and these circumstances and sometimes deviates to incorporate a broader discussion, but nothing irrelevant. A quick look at his twitter account will show McClean is as willing to entertain commentary regarding to his performances on the field, as he is his background (a former NI u21 from Derry).

I'm not quite sure how voicing complaints against political discussion in this thread is going to serve any purpose. If people were discussing the Greek IMF bailout in the Richard Dunne thread then there would be quite an issue.

**johnnyc** · 12/02/2012, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Aye, but what about the replies to your original moan on this?

And the context of where certain players come from?

What about the replies??? And those who have argued a similar point to myself for that matter.

And again, if it's directly relevant to the player and concerns his connections to Northern Ireland/The IFA/his upbringing/his recent performances/hairstyle/girlfriend/favourite breakfast cereal/blah... then it's obvious it belongs in a thread about him. I'm arguing that if it's about a broader topic, it shouldn't be in a player thread.

Look, I'm happy for the mods to sort this one out. I just want to read/talk about football, lads. I (and a fair few others) would rather not have to wade through the same old "political" disussions to do so. Good luck.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 12/02/2012, 11:43 PM

But do you not understand? "The same old"political" discussions will exist in perpetuity unless some extreme conclusion is suddenly reached.

Why do people want to disregard the wider context in which we live?

**OwenGoal** · 13/02/2012, 10:52 AM

@ Johnnyc

Here's a tip: I check this forum several times a day for the latest info, though I rarely post. If I see that the last post on any particular thread is by Ardeebhoy I know I don't have to bother reading it. He's actually quite useful for saving time.

Monothemism is a form of mental illness.

**elroy** · 13/02/2012, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

But do you not understand? "The same old"political" discussions will exist in perpetuity unless some extreme conclusion is suddenly reached.

Why do people want to disregard the wider context in which we live?

No one is disregarding the wider context - all that is being asked is that wider context is discussed in a thread specifically devoted to it, surely that is not an unreasonable request. As you had said this matter will most likely exist in perpetuity, so then again is it not unreasonable to discuss this near ending matter in one concentrated thread rather than in several numerous thread. Surely you will even have to admit that was the very reason a single devoted thread was set up in the first instance.

One cannot really speak about Mcclean in the political/eligibility context without refering to the likes of Gibson, Kearns, Duffy etc. Then surely the best place for such discussion is in the thread devoted to that matter.

In McCleans case, his eligbility has been sorted and is clear, one could argue there is no further debate to be had in this regard.

**DannyInvincible** · 13/02/2012, 12:06 PM

Just like Stephen Ireland's international retirement has been sorted and is clear, so no need to ever speak of him again...

**elroy** · 13/02/2012, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

Just like Stephen Ireland's international retirement has been sorted and is clear, so no need to ever speak of him again...

McCleans eligibility is certain.

Irelands retirement (unfortunately due to the regular comments he or his missus makes) isnt as certain.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 13/02/2012, 2:11 PM

Originally Posted by OwenGoal

Here's a tip: I check this forum several times a day for the latest info, though I rarely post. If I see that the last post on any particular thread is by Ardeebhoy I know I don't have to bother reading it. He's actually quite useful for saving time.

Monothemism is a form of mental illness.

Hmm, so much so that you responded immediately after one of my posts.
So, No, You Didn't read it at all.

Here's another tip. If you're going to use a long word you probably don't understand, at least spell it right and apply it in the right context...

Or if you find it all so contrary, why not share your great wisdom further?

**Murfinator** · 13/02/2012, 3:08 PM

Originally Posted by amaccann

Baffled at the decision by Trapatoni: be faithful to those who got us to the finals, sure, but what possible harm is there in bringing-in the young talent and showing them around the premises, so to speak. .

You are aware Trap is preparing for our first Euros in 20 years and that this isn't a 7up summer camp?

**OwenGoal** · 14/02/2012, 12:20 AM

Hmm, so much so that you responded immediately after one of my posts.
So, No, You Didn't read it at all.

Here's another tip. If you're going to use a long word you probably don't understand, at least spell it right and apply it in the right context...

Or if you find it all so contrary, why not share your great wisdom further?

Not monotheism, nitwit, monothemism as in monothematic. Admittedly the concept noun is somewhat contrived.
:

**ArdeeBhoy** · 14/02/2012, 1:06 AM

You need to learn to quote, Before you try to be 'ironic'. And get your definition right. FIRST time.
Good Luck.

And what is the 'one theme', anyway??

**ArdeeBhoy** · 14/02/2012, 3:33 AM

Just to prove it?
On course to be one of Doire's richest sportsmen ever?

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news...cle865063.html

**johnnyc** · 14/02/2012, 9:27 AM

I'm gonna read the hell out of that story which is relevant to James McClean and is appropriate to this thread.

**johnnyc** · 14/02/2012, 1:25 PM

More opinions on our James here.
http://www.football365.com/faves/7518940/Top-Ten

**gustavo** · 15/02/2012, 2:04 PM

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

I understand the objections of people with no interest in eligibility matters having to trawl through masses of eligibility-related discussion, but how do you distinguish between what should and shouldn't be here though? In the case of McClean, discussion on his eligibility/switch is as relevant and appropriate in this thread as discussion of his football, surely?

Disagree- He's declared for us so end of story on that one.

Please keep on topic of footballing matters related to James , If you want to discuss elegibility matters theres a 100 plus page cesspit elsewhere

**geysir** · 15/02/2012, 6:51 PM

Ah, dressing up a condescension with a little mudslinging.
If you don't care for the eligibility thread, you can chose your words better or just say nothing.
That kind of crude attitude would not be tolerated in the eligibility thread.