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    McClean still getting dog's abuse on the Sunderland forum, much of it explicitly anti-Irish in tone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    All very interesting this poppy wearing lark, wil be interesting to see if MOTD notices a non-poppy wears.

    I notice Sir Alex had a rather ambiguous mini-poppy.
    That doesn't mean anything. They sell the poppy lapel badges in the same boxes as the normal ones. Also, SIR Alex is a proud Brit.

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    he needs some big performances quickly.he is very lucky oneill is his manager.

    maith an fear james.

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    One of the worst things when I was living in Britain was this poppy fascism, its mad. I could travel around large parts of west London and not see a poppy at all (Hounslow, West Drayton, and southhall) yet on the box everyone has to wear a poppy. Who cares, jeez

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    Quote Originally Posted by boovidge View Post
    That doesn't mean anything. They sell the poppy lapel badges in the same boxes as the normal ones. Also, SIR Alex is a proud Brit.
    The UEFA site have him down as Scottish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    btw odriscoll didnt wear one in the rugby coverage and wood did?

    any ideas why that was?i have one.
    O'Driscoll and one of the other pundits (Rob Kearney?) didn't wear the poppy. Considering it appears that every other BBC presenter and guest wears the poppy, that it's (almost) official BBC policy to wear the poppy, was there any rumpus raised about that action? Did anybody ask them for their reasons? Is it assumed that because they can articulate themselves that we allow them the respect of their privacy?

    I see the Roker Report carries a sane article on the issue.
    The Only "PoppyCock" Is Those Who Abuse The Freedom To Choose

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    wood is contracted they are not. Unfortunately i find no co-relation between those sunderland fans and the irish rugby commentators on bbc for a match that took place in Dublin. I dount those fans even knew about the Irish game...

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    I wasn't remotely suggesting that Sunderland fans would take note of what happens on the BBC rugby show.

    Why is it that certain players are targeted for abuse?
    Today there's an article in the Guardian about Neil Lennon "he has been regularly caricatured in the Scottish press as an immature hothead and a loose cannon who was somehow partly responsible for the vicissitudes he has encountered. One former Scotland international, writing in a Sunday newspaper, even suggested Lennon had brought the death threats upon himself because of his edgy demeanor. As they flock to praise him now they adopt a supercilious tone in the manner of a headmaster handing over the best-pupil prize to a classroom miscreant who has changed his ways."

    Here we have similar opinions expressed about McClean not just from the press but from Irish fans as well.
    More or less that he should shut up, he should wear the poppy, he hasn't the brains to have an conscious rational objection to not wearing the poppy, he brings all this vicissitude upon himself, he is a moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    The UEFA site have him down as Scottish.
    In the same way that every Brit's profile has the flag of their constituent part of the UK?

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    Whatever the poppy stood for in the past has been long on the wane.

    Sadly now it's been exploited by the Brit.establishment purely for propaganda reasons.
    Not that there's any logic now in commemorating any of their forces who've died since 1945 anyway...

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    Interesting article which I came across on twitter
    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...d-6257416.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by JGKyne View Post
    Interesting article which I came across on twitter
    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...d-6257416.html
    Yeah Im sure thats why he wasnt wearing it, he is clearly a keen student of modern history!

    Look he doesnt have to wear one at home but hes playing in England, happy to take the money so he should adopt local practices.

    By doing this he has made a very active specific point that he has an issue with the vast majority of the people in the country where he works. If this is his view he needs to move back to Ireland or to another country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    I wasn't remotely suggesting that Sunderland fans would take note of what happens on the BBC rugby show.

    Why is it that certain players are targeted for abuse?
    Today there's an article in the Guardian about Neil Lennon "he has been regularly caricatured in the Scottish press as an immature hothead and a loose cannon who was somehow partly responsible for the vicissitudes he has encountered. One former Scotland international, writing in a Sunday newspaper, even suggested Lennon had brought the death threats upon himself because of his edgy demeanor. As they flock to praise him now they adopt a supercilious tone in the manner of a headmaster handing over the best-pupil prize to a classroom miscreant who has changed his ways."

    Here we have similar opinions expressed about McClean not just from the press but from Irish fans as well.
    More or less that he should shut up, he should wear the poppy, he hasn't the brains to have an conscious rational objection to not wearing the poppy, he brings all this vicissitude upon himself, he is a moron.
    But he is a moron.

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    Your opinion CD.

    He may think likewise?


    Quote Originally Posted by cavan_fan View Post
    Look he doesnt have to wear one at home but hes playing in England, happy to take the money so he should adopt local practices.

    By doing this he has made a very active specific point that he has an issue with the vast majority of the people in the country where he works. If this is his view he needs to move back to Ireland or to another country.
    Complete nonsense.

    Besides the fact that everyone in Britain has the freedom of choice on this matter, including many British/English people who don't wear one or fall for this propaganda, it's not as if every ethnic group adapts local practices of their host countries in very many instances...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cavan_fan View Post
    By doing this he has made a very active specific point that he has an issue with the vast majority of the people in the country where he works. If this is his view he needs to move back to Ireland or to another country.
    But that's nonsense. Walk around the streets of London, see how many are wearing poppies - maybe 50 per cent. Walk around Liverpool - even less. Regardless of where he works, he doesn't have to adopt anything he doesn't feel comfortable with. Poppy wearing is, and should be voluntary. That 'happy to take the money' point is crazy.
    Ou-est le Centre George Pompidou?

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    If he's happy enough to take their money then he should be happy enough to speak in an English accent. Sick of people moving and not adopting the local practices.

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    More of that military poppy crap before today's games. Some old soldiers in uniform shaking hands with the players before kickoff.

    I'm sure that the soldier shaking John Terry's hand was thinking that paying a scumbag racist hundreds of thousands of pounds to kick a ball around was the kind of future he and his mates fought and often died for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    If he's happy enough to take their money then he should be happy enough to speak in an English accent. Sick of people moving and not adopting the local practices.
    At its heart hes not wearing one because he doesnt like the British. I dont object to this but if he feels like that he should live somewhere else. This is not a personal thing, he wasnt walking around the streets. He was as far as I am aware the only premiership player yesterday who decided to do this (including Ashkan Dejagah from Iran). In conjunction with his previous statements its hard to avoid the idea that he just doesnt like Britain. Thats not an issue but its a bit rich to then work there.

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    Hears an idea, dont watch English football on an English TV channel then.

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