Served him right for calling that Iraqi gentleman a Syrian.Originally Posted by Predator
Beat me to it...
You sure?
Colin, like most 'expert pundits', seems to inhabit his own particular TV bubble based on his random witterings, so is probably oblivious. But at least he shouldn't make that mistake again..
It's more laughable as there's no such country, just the odd mediocre sports team to remind us. As plenty are happy to remind us, it's part of, er, Britain.
So if James had called himself as CM describes, he's admitting he's, er, British. Which he obviously isn't.
Ah, that whole chestnut. So you and about 300 other people in the North then...
Last edited by ArdeeBhoy; 07/02/2012 at 1:10 AM.
If it didn't, my observation that Ireland looks like a koala in profile wouldn't make sense at all.
It'd be missing two thirds of it's furry head!
Last edited by Sullivinho; 07/02/2012 at 1:35 AM.
"Right lads, split into three groups, the Northern Irish, the British and the Irish for 5 a side"
We know identity matters are issues of contention in NI and we've already established that identifying as Northern Irish is not a prerequisite to representing the IFA, so I still don't see the funny side of a player correcting an ignorant/provocative presenter over his error/jibe. I didn't see Murray make his comment so delete as necessary.
As long as James has got it off his chest, that's all that matters.
Snigger.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
He, legitimately, chooses not to identify as British, but I can assure you young James is a British Citizen, by virtue of his birth in the City of Londonderry in the United Kingdom - it's going to be the UK City Of Culture, don't you know.
Last edited by Not Brazil; 07/02/2012 at 5:57 PM.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
That "plenty" are obviously a bit slow.
Northern Ireland is patently not part of, er, Britain.
It is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and, er, Northern Ireland.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16928753
Slightly misleading headline in this article if one were to believe the word that O'Neill asked McClean to reconsider with which association his international allegiance lay. The general sentiment of his comments and the fact that he is, to a degree, urging Trap to pick McClean seems to demonstrate that O'Neill was most likely erring on the side of ambivalence if he did indeed request McClean to rethink his decision. Big 'if'.
O'Neill didn't ask McClean to reconsider his decision. If you read Martin's words, he stresses that it is not his place to interfere in McClean's personal ambitions internationally. He understands, and respects, the principle of personal choice.
End Apartheid Now! One Team in Ireland!
I was only framing O'Neill's quotes from today in the context of a prior assertion that was made in this thread and in quarters of the media that O'Neill had asked McClean to reconsider his position.
If you read my words, I didn't say he did ask McClean to reconsider his position. That's why I used "the word" (as a slang-like synonym for rumour or speculation) and "if" twice. I'm aware of O'Neill's position.
Last edited by Olé Olé; 07/02/2012 at 6:56 PM.
I know, I know, but there is no need to afford the hearsay any credence when O'Neill's words speak for themselves.
End Apartheid Now! One Team in Ireland!
For the record, I wasn't having a go at you.
End Apartheid Now! One Team in Ireland!
I know that, fair enough. I agree with the point you made, I just thought you took me up wrong.
Well he can revoke it, didn't you know? As for Derry being 'City Of Culture', that's just a sop to boost tourism.
Really. Those plenty (who are currently the majority, or hadn't you noticed?) are very keen to emphasise their 'Britishness' which is up to them I suppose.
Presumably you haven't seen all those flags and various other 'cultural icons' reminding everyone of this...
Of course - I educated you previously in that regard.
You were to get back to me once you ascertained the consequences of such action.
I've yet to meet anyone born in Northern Ireland who has revoked their British Citizenship - maybe the "campaign" you were blathering on about, once the full horror of British Citizenship dawned on you, will start a flood of forms landing in the inbox of the Home Office.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Yes, really.
Don't confuse British Citizenship (Nationality) with the geographical entity of Britain.
Of course I have seen numerous flags and emblems that "remind everyone" that Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom - for example, my National Flag, the Union Flag.
More research needed AB.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Did you? I think not. And what 'consequences'?
As for not meeting people like this, well they're hardly going to bump into you, unless you're paying a lot of clandestine visits to nationalist areas? The demographic of those who hang about Windsor is hardly going to fit into this, is it?
Anyway, rightly or wrongly, the vast majority who are bothered, considered their passport as evidence of citizenship. Even if doesn't fit a certain extremely pedantic definition...
I've done my research. The biggest political bloc in the North, see themselves as exclusively British, but if you choose to ignore that, more fool you.
Even the most diehard republican would admit that.
And am well aware of Britain's unsavoury colonial past.
As for the Uj, that's only one flag anyway;there's only limited explanation or relevance for the Scottish (Saltire & Lion Rampant, FFS), English, Israeli or Dutch flags. And even the Stars & Stripes...
Certain Scots & Americans would take great umbrage at such dubious association.
Last edited by ArdeeBhoy; 07/02/2012 at 10:43 PM.
Whoosh.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
I "bump into" people from a Nationalist/Republican background every day in my working life.
Many of my work colleagues are Nationalists/Republicans.
I am employed by a Nationalist, and my most recent previous employer would be a high profile Nationalist/Republican.
My work takes me into staunchly Nationalist/Repubilan households regularly.
I socialise with Nationalist/Republicans friends regularly.
I play golf every week with Nationalists.
There's Nationalists on the playing payroll at Windsor Park.
In fact, I couldn't envisage a day in my life where I don't "bump into" Nationalists/Republicans in Northern Ireland.
Not one of them has "revoked" their British Citizenship.
I wonder why?
Last edited by Not Brazil; 07/02/2012 at 11:23 PM.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
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