For the love of God, and the sake of whatever is left of the collective sanity of the board, can we please move the poppy talk to the politics forum?
Exactly. You can always ignore it.
After reading that BNP statement, Maith an fear Seamus!!
I guess if Simon Cox wore one it would be Poppy Cox?
Not at all. Read what I posted again. I wasn't dissing - I was saying that I'm not going to change the minds of people who only ever regularly post on eligibility/northern Irish born players threads. I have no interest in trying to change the minds of people whose minds aren't for changing! Waste of time! That's all it was.
By the way, I also have friends and family in Britain but not sure that that is relevant anyway. And it's only lofty because we're sitting on 2 foot of snow!
Okay, let me be clear because maybe I'm not being clear. If I decided to wear a poppy just because my teammates were doing it, I would argue that that is less of a "statement" than deliberately going against what my teammates were all doing. Arguably more thought goes into that action therefore it's more of a statement. Just wearing one cos everyone else you know is wearing one is a pretty diluted statement.
Personally, I'd check foot.ie first and then do the opposite of what Paul O'Shea thinks... just kidding Paul! Seriously, I didn't wear one here but then I just don't care enough either way! I'm a lazy b@stard.
A take on James from Manchester.
http://www.afinelung.com/?p=5015
I understand from reading that, that it's important for you to change other peoples' opinions, that you have this idea that your opinions are somehow more right and other peoples' opinions are more wrong. That you are not comfortable with just expressing your opinion on a matter but have the 'itch' to change the other person's opinion, perhaps towards your own point of view.
Here, you can express yourself and debate your point and leave it at that. Why on earth do you want to change people's opinions? that's fundamentalism.
I see what you're saying, but rather than brand McClean an ill-informed loudmouth then, couldn't you acknowledge that his club placed him in a very uncomfortable no-win situation? Should he have toed the line, sold out and set himself up for a good shunning in his home community? Perhaps you were the one who was ill-informed?Okay, let me be clear because maybe I'm not being clear. If I decided to wear a poppy just because my teammates were doing it, I would argue that that is less of a "statement" than deliberately going against what my teammates were all doing. Arguably more thought goes into that action therefore it's more of a statement. Just wearing one cos everyone else you know is wearing one is a pretty diluted statement.
I'm with you guys, I know my opinion is right and the world would be a better place if more people thought like me, granted I might argue more with them.
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
One, can never be enough tets
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
Has he quit Twitter again?
https://twitter.com/mcclean23
I wouldn't doubt that a more level headed individual such as yourself would have a bit more perspective on the issue and I respect peoples decisions to wear and commemorate this if they like however it seems that a lot of peoples attitudes are somewhat more sensationalized and OTT and they seem unable or unwilling to understand why people might not want to wear it and refuse to respect their decision, the whole thing makes me rather uncomfortable and pessimistic about NI as the divide is so deep that there is literally no room for mutual respect among large swathes of the population there. I don't see why the white poppy isn't more widespread as it should be an alternative for those who wish to remember all victims of war including British Military personnel and surely nobody could have issue with that?
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