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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    the two Olympic silvers for one thing
    That's it?

    If they were gold medals you may have a point but no other Irish sports person accomplished anything close to what McGregor did last year.
    Last edited by The Fly; 18/12/2017 at 5:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    no other Irish sports person accomplished anything close to what McGregor did last year.
    all hype

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    If they were gold medals you may have a point but no other Irish sports person accomplished anything close to what McGregor did last year.
    False. McClean, like McGregor, talked a good game but then got handily beaten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    False. McClean, like McGregor, talked a good game but then got handily beaten.
    That was this year, for McGregor.

    Last year he became double UFC champion, holding titles in two different weight classes at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    all hype
    Hmmm.....I'm sensing bias.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    False. McClean, like McGregor, talked a good game but then got handily beaten.
    What osarusan said.
    Last edited by The Fly; 18/12/2017 at 8:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    That was this year, for McGregor.

    Last year he became double UFC champion, holding titles in two different weight classes at the same time.
    True, was reading last year as in the last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    That was this year, for McGregor.

    Last year he became double UFC champion, holding titles in two different weight classes at the same time.
    UFC? come on, its not a real sport, and anyhow it doesn't look very competitive. I'd say most people can only name the one UFC fighter.

    As for McClean: as much as I love James and all he stands for and his passion, think this was a bit of a joke. I would have given it to Canning, the story of the year I think.

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    Good point on YBIG on Canning, he wasn't even Galway's player of the year. He had the moment of the GAA year with that winning score, but the award is for performance over the whole year

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    Morning all. I think it's a 'personality' contest as that's snappier than 'Sportsman/ Sportswoman'.

    James McClean and Andy Murray seem quite similar- both ready to speak out on off-field issues.

    Anyway here's the currently highest-profile Irish personality:


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    And the semi's for Canning. That argument doesn't stand up as McClean hasn't done a massive amount in the year too, and with nothing to show for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Good point on YBIG on Canning, he wasn't even Galway's player of the year. He had the moment of the GAA year with that winning score, but the award is for performance over the whole year
    I suggested the same thing in a separate group, I say suggested because I don't think it's fair to say that Canning definitely wasn't Galway's poty, as he was generally excellent and vitally important. They had other outstanding performers too though, the two Burke's, Whelan, etc.

    He did win hurler of the year of course (which would imply he was Galway's best). Jamie Barron should have won that though in my opinion. Did Galway actually have a poty award that somebody else won or is that your own (or the YBIG guys) personal opinion?

    Anyway, what did Conor Murray do to you?

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    Murray's done nothing to me personally, but I've heard he's carrying on the tradition of O'Gara in the world class player/world class ******* stakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    UFC? come on, its not a real sport, and anyhow it doesn't look very competitive. I'd say most people can only name the one UFC fighter.
    The sport is MMA - the UFC is the leading promotion within the sport. The featherweight and lightweight divisions have probably been the most competitive within the organisation in recent times, so McGregor's achievement was remarkable.

    As for the 'not a real sport' point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    UFC? come on, its not a real sport, and anyhow it doesn't look very competitive. I'd say most people can only name the one UFC fighter.
    How do you define a "real sport"?

    UFC may be a promotional company, but MMA is a widely-recognised full-contact combat sport with roots in ancient disciplines; it requires serious self-discipline, conditioning, agility and toughness, both physical and mental. It combines eight or nine martial arts disciplines in total, six of which are full Olympic sports. In what sense does it not look very competitive? I don't have a particularly extensive interest in it beyond a curiosity as to how McGregor gets on (although I still have a serious amount of respect for anyone who has the commitment and fortitude to compete), but why would something like that - or the level of public knowledge in respect of specific MMA fighters generally, in other words - have any bearing on its status as a sport or not?

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    Interesting that Benno suggests a lack of competitiveness in MMA and then picks a hurler for sportsperson of the year!

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    McClean having some Twitter fun this evening - https://twitter.com/JamesMcC_14/stat...04811125809152

    So Paul Kimmage ( some journalist ) is upset the critter about me winning RTE sportsperson of year, as voted by the Irish public i may add.. Paul and whoever else is upset about it, as i go shine my award i apologise sincerely for not giving a toss
    In response to this - https://www.independent.ie/sport/oth...-36419081.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
    The sport is MMA - the UFC is the leading promotion within the sport. The featherweight and lightweight divisions have probably been the most competitive within the organisation in recent times, so McGregor's achievement was remarkable.

    As for the 'not a real sport' point...
    What? the Brazilian that slipped on his fist, yeah, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    How do you define a "real sport"?

    UFC may be a promotional company, but MMA is a widely-recognised full-contact combat sport with roots in ancient disciplines; it requires serious self-discipline, conditioning, agility and toughness, both physical and mental. It combines eight or nine martial arts disciplines in total, six of which are full Olympic sports. In what sense does it not look very competitive? I don't have a particularly extensive interest in it beyond a curiosity as to how McGregor gets on (although I still have a serious amount of respect for anyone who has the commitment and fortitude to compete), but why would something like that - or the level of public knowledge in respect of specific MMA fighters generally, in other words - have any bearing on its status as a sport or not?
    Yeah sure it does Danny, all I see is two lads in tight shorts rolling around on top of each other, and its all over in ten seconds. (insert jokes here.......)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    Yeah sure it does Danny, all I see is two lads in tight shorts rolling around on top of each other, and its all over in ten seconds. (insert jokes here.......)
    Err yeah...ju-jitsu, boxing, kung fu, karate, wrestling, judo, capoeira. The list goes on.

    Did what you describe happen in either of those two championship fights btw? Nope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    Kimmage said: "Nobody agrees, other than James' parents, that James McClean is the Sportstar of the Year."

    That's evidently untrue, considering the general public voted for James, although I didn't hear Kimmage's tone so he may well have been exaggerating for effect.

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