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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    Christ, you're talking close to an hour for them to get to Ballybofey. Heard that they were told it would be a regional division and now it's not going to be that way they're put off by the travelling. They wouldn't have a huge fanbase anywho so they'd be no loss.
    They'va a damn sight more fans than Salthill or Mervue id wager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicMon View Post
    Out of interest, are there any Salthill or Carlow fans on here?
    Not sure there are even Salthill fans in Drom....
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    Quote Originally Posted by culloty82 View Post
    If an even number of teams was an issue, surely it'd make more sense to admit GUST independently, rather than penalising clubs who, if the various threads are correct, have met the licensing requirements?
    Quote Originally Posted by gufc2000 View Post
    Well all of the above believe they are in, so hard to see who they would drop.
    Why stop at GUST?? Why not admit Mullingar and Castlebar, make it fourteen, they've been mentioned in foot.ie threads aswell....


    You all realise the FAI have to operate in the (often semi in their case tbf) real world and not in foot.ie land??

    There's nothing to suggest all three clubs think they are in bar idle speculation on here.

    Don't get me wrong it's just an educated guess on my part, doesn't matter to me whether there's ten, eleven or twenty three teams involved.

    Quote Originally Posted by Martinho II View Post
    do you mean lim till i die that galway utd would merge with devon so.. if thats the case its a surprise..
    No I mean Salthill will re brand their senior team for the purposes of League Of Ireland football.

    Again just an educated guess, probably wont even happen this year.

    Galway United is dead and as such would be bringing nothing to that table.

    Quote Originally Posted by Martinho II View Post
    I read somewhere that Fanad got put off by the amount of travelling involved.. why how far are they from ballybofey?
    This is exactly what happened Fanad.

    I wish people would stop mentioning Fanad.

    They thought the Division would be regionalised.

    They expressed an interest.

    They were told it wouldn't be regionalised.

    They baulked at the costs involved.

    The end.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy View Post
    They'va a damn sight more fans than Salthill or Mervue id wager.
    Totally irrelevant unless they were all going to push the bus on the long away trips cut down on costs.

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    If Fanad want a regional league, it's the place for some form of regionalised third tier. If a reserve league was to come in, it'll probably be regionalised. A mix of the two is still the obvious choice. I haven't seen Mullingar mentioned much. Tullamore and Castlebar were the two clubs to pull out of the A Championship last year citing the uncertainty and the end of that league.

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    After the bold headlines of a fortnight ago, tomorrow is now merely Tralee's final meeting with the FAI, so looks like nothing will be decided until 12th February. Just to pull Lim up on "speculation", I've only put updates in this thread that were based on a source, so when anything is wrong, it's because new info has become available afterwards.
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    Open meeting - this evening, Claddagh Hall, 9.00pm

    Galway United Supporters Trust will hold an open meeting this evening, Wednesday January 18th, to update our members, supporters and the public on developments over the two weeks regarding our application for the 2012 Airtricity League First Division.

    The meeting will be held at the Claddagh Hall at 9.00pm. GUST apologise for the short notice, we hope to see you at the Claddagh Hall later on.

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    Limeick fans have short memories

    The FAI's decision effectively disenfranchised the incumbent Limerick F.C. and its chairman Danny Drew, although the organisation remained receptive to the continued participation of Limerick within senior football. To this end, FAI chief executive John Delaney openly solicited approaches from other interested parties within the city of Limerick even as he announced the rejection of Limerick F.C.'s appeal: "We want a healthy Limerick based club in the new Eircom League of Ireland and if interested entities seek a licence, we would assess them carefully for their suitability to meet the criteria required to play in the league."[8] On January 3, 2007, the FAI confirmed that its appeal for Limerick-based applicants to the league had garnered interest from a number of parties, one of which identified itself as Soccer Limerick, a consortium purporting to represent the entire spectrum of Limerick football, from schoolboy to Junior (amateur) level, and operating under the auspices of the Limerick Sports Partnership.[9]

    Eight days later, Soccer Limerick confirmed that its constituent committees had approved the submission of a formal application for a UEFA club license, with a view to gaining entry to the First Division of the National League for the 2007 season. Soccer Limerick spokesman Ger Finnan confirmed that Limerick 37 planned to stage home fixtures at Jackman Park, headquarters of the LDMC, and would announce the appointment of a first-team manager on Monday January 15, 2007.[10] Paul McGee was subsequently appointed manager of Limerick 37, and signed 11 players before the start of the season.[11]

    With McGee's results and style of play not going down well with the home fans, the club opted to replace him with former player and manager Mike Kerley, who brought abput mid-table respectability, as well as a remarkable end of season run which saw Limerick end Waterford's promotion hopes with a 5-1 win in Limerick, a 1-0 away defeat of eventual division winners Dundalk, and most memorably, a 1-1 draw away to shelbourne, with Colin Scanlan's late equaliser denying Shelbourne the title and promotion in the 2008 season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gufct View Post
    Limeick fans have short memories

    The FAI's decision effectively disenfranchised the incumbent Limerick F.C. and its chairman Danny Drew, although the organisation remained receptive to the continued participation of Limerick within senior football. To this end, FAI chief executive John Delaney openly solicited approaches from other interested parties within the city of Limerick even as he announced the rejection of Limerick F.C.'s appeal: "We want a healthy Limerick based club in the new Eircom League of Ireland and if interested entities seek a licence, we would assess them carefully for their suitability to meet the criteria required to play in the league."[8] On January 3, 2007, the FAI confirmed that its appeal for Limerick-based applicants to the league had garnered interest from a number of parties, one of which identified itself as Soccer Limerick, a consortium purporting to represent the entire spectrum of Limerick football, from schoolboy to Junior (amateur) level, and operating under the auspices of the Limerick Sports Partnership.[9]

    Eight days later, Soccer Limerick confirmed that its constituent committees had approved the submission of a formal application for a UEFA club license, with a view to gaining entry to the First Division of the National League for the 2007 season. Soccer Limerick spokesman Ger Finnan confirmed that Limerick 37 planned to stage home fixtures at Jackman Park, headquarters of the LDMC, and would announce the appointment of a first-team manager on Monday January 15, 2007.[10] Paul McGee was subsequently appointed manager of Limerick 37, and signed 11 players before the start of the season.[11]

    With McGee's results and style of play not going down well with the home fans, the club opted to replace him with former player and manager Mike Kerley, who brought abput mid-table respectability, as well as a remarkable end of season run which saw Limerick end Waterford's promotion hopes with a 5-1 win in Limerick, a 1-0 away defeat of eventual division winners Dundalk, and most memorably, a 1-1 draw away to shelbourne, with Colin Scanlan's late equaliser denying Shelbourne the title and promotion in the 2008 season.
    You have posted this twice now.Whats it to do with anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gufc2000 View Post
    Open meeting - this evening, Claddagh Hall, 9.00pm


    Galway United Supporters Trust will hold an open meeting this evening, Wednesday January 18th, to update our members, supporters and the public on developments over the two weeks regarding our application for the 2012 Airtricity League First Division.

    The meeting will be held at the Claddagh Hall at 9.00pm. GUST apologise for the short notice, we hope to see you at the Claddagh Hall later on.
    Wonder if the Galway fans were watching Nuacht TG4 tonight - it reported that GUST won't be awarded an independent licence, that the FAI have ordered a merger with either Mervue or Salthill, and that three-party talks were held last night between GUST, Salthill and the FAI, but adjourned without agreement. After tonight's GUST EGM, discussions will reportedly resume tomorrow morning.

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    there was a good piece in the mail about galway devon merger today.. interesting to see what will happen next.. I sincerely hope that the merger will not be a disaster as the St Pats St Francis merger was eleven years ago which ceased a few months later!
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    The removal of the third tier is a problem for GUST? A merger shouldn't be their only option. The FAI will have to take a look at that situation. Even if the FAI don't want to run the league at that level, is there anything stopping the clubs themselves running a league? Up north, Fanad, Castlebar could lobby some LoI clubs to field reserve sides in a northern league. Down south, Tullamore and some reserve side could form some sort of southern league. If clubs ran that tier themselves, they wouldn't have to worry too much about restrictions and possibly a few more club might join.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gufct View Post
    Limeick fans have short memories

    The FAI's decision effectively disenfranchised the incumbent Limerick F.C. and its chairman Danny Drew, although the organisation remained receptive to the continued participation of Limerick within senior football. To this end, FAI chief executive John Delaney openly solicited approaches from other interested parties within the city of Limerick even as he announced the rejection of Limerick F.C.'s appeal: "We want a healthy Limerick based club in the new Eircom League of Ireland and if interested entities seek a licence, we would assess them carefully for their suitability to meet the criteria required to play in the league."[8] On January 3, 2007, the FAI confirmed that its appeal for Limerick-based applicants to the league had garnered interest from a number of parties, one of which identified itself as Soccer Limerick, a consortium purporting to represent the entire spectrum of Limerick football, from schoolboy to Junior (amateur) level, and operating under the auspices of the Limerick Sports Partnership.[9]

    Eight days later, Soccer Limerick confirmed that its constituent committees had approved the submission of a formal application for a UEFA club license, with a view to gaining entry to the First Division of the National League for the 2007 season. Soccer Limerick spokesman Ger Finnan confirmed that Limerick 37 planned to stage home fixtures at Jackman Park, headquarters of the LDMC, and would announce the appointment of a first-team manager on Monday January 15, 2007.[10] Paul McGee was subsequently appointed manager of Limerick 37, and signed 11 players before the start of the season.[11]

    With McGee's results and style of play not going down well with the home fans, the club opted to replace him with former player and manager Mike Kerley, who brought abput mid-table respectability, as well as a remarkable end of season run which saw Limerick end Waterford's promotion hopes with a 5-1 win in Limerick, a 1-0 away defeat of eventual division winners Dundalk, and most memorably, a 1-1 draw away to shelbourne, with Colin Scanlan's late equaliser denying Shelbourne the title and promotion in the 2008 season.
    I don't get it. Fair enough there are slight comparisons in what happened us and ye but what has that got to do with any Limerick Fans commenting on the current situation with Galway and how does any Limerick fan commenting on the current situation constitute as "Limerick fans have short memories"?

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    Summary from Galway forum of their meeting tonight:

    Just finished. Negotiations are taking place between gust and 2 clubs exploring the possibility of some kind of merger. FAI will not accept gust's application because it was 8 days late but want a team representing galway playing in Terryland. Trust will continue to explore possibilities. Good turnout tg4 cameras lots of passion. Next few days massive for future of galway football.
    Regarding discussions with Salthill and Mervue about a merger:

    Two and a half hours of passionate debate from a great turnout considering the notice. Strong opinions on all sides.
    Salthill offered SD Galway FC as the name, two places on a subcommittee which would run club and answer to club's board.
    Mervue had a verbal offer. Little detail available yet, but did make mention of openness to other GDL clubs.
    General consensus was that neither deal was offering enough and further negotiations were required.

    Some favoured taking improved deal to keep soccer alive in city. Others felt tying to one club over other would alienate too many other local clubs and ultimately would fail as a result.
    But if we hold out till next year the rules could have changed again and we may not get a licence then...
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    So in summary it looks like Salthill will be taking the Galway name for their senior team for the purposes of competing in the LoI.....

    2 places on a sub committee

    It's a ready made club for the GUST if they get behind it tbf, decent ground in Terryland, decent training facilities in Drom.
    Last edited by Lim till i die; 19/01/2012 at 12:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jofspring View Post
    I don't get it. Fair enough there are slight comparisons in what happened us and ye but what has that got to do with any Limerick Fans commenting on the current situation with Galway and how does any Limerick fan commenting on the current situation constitute as "Limerick fans have short memories"?
    Deflect, deflect, deflect. It's some he dose a lot.

    So it's Salthill Devon FC Galway with two trust members on the board?

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    Posted last night on www.galwayunitedfc.net by Kevb

    Two and a half hours of passionate debate from a great turnout considering the notice. Strong opinions on all sides.
    Salthill offered SD Galway FC as the name, two places on a subcommittee which would run club and answer to club's board.
    Mervue had a verbal offer. Little detail available yet, but did make mention of openness to other GDL clubs.
    General consensus was that neither deal was offering enough and further negotiations were required.

    Some favoured taking improved deal to keep soccer alive in city. Others felt tying to one club over other would alienate too many other local clubs and ultimately would fail as a result.
    But if we hold out till next year the rules could have changed again and we may not get a licence then...

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    So that's Galway United dead and buried. Over 70 years of history gone.

    I think the Trust have to share some of the responsibility in the death of their club. They were strongly advised if they walked away from GUFC that their new clubs chances of getting licence was a non starter but they went ahead. They blame the old board, Leeson, the FAI, the two other clubs in Galway for the demise of Untied but they most share some of this blame and their action to walk away was the final blow that killed untied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Star View Post
    So that's Galway United dead and buried. Over 70 years of history gone.
    Only for a year or two until they buy the name and history.
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    SD Galway FC??!! Galway & Mervue United FC??!! Piece in Tribune today on the latest, though the online verison only has the piece on a merger with Salthill
    http://www.galwaynews.ie/23804-mervu...eland-alliance
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    Quote Originally Posted by culloty82 View Post
    JC GUFC usually gives any updates on Carlow, haven't seen many more of their fans here, but maybe he'll know better.
    Nah - I just used their crest as my avatar for a while as I liked it! I'm a GUST FC fan!
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