2012 First Division structure?

**nigel-harps1954** · 26/01/2012, 5:53 PM

Fortune to hostages: never give.

**gormacha** · 26/01/2012, 6:04 PM

Originally Posted by gormacha

Here's a game"

Oops. Hoisted on my own incompetence.

Never give a hostage to fortune, he said ironically to himself.

**harps1954** · 26/01/2012, 7:08 PM

Originally Posted by gormacha

What a joke.

Only 28 games, many of which will be meaningless for many clubs.

I have it on good authority that if there was 10 teams in the FD this year, there was only going to be three rounds of fixtures, so that would only have meant 27 games for each team.

While playing everyone four times is a bit much, it does at least mean there is a 'fairness' with equal number of home and away games.

**Martinho II** · 26/01/2012, 8:26 PM

why either Tralee or Cobh havent taken over Galway Utd's spot I will never know!

**1dynamos** · 26/01/2012, 9:16 PM

Tralee Dynamos did not "fall down", F.A.I. to visit Tralee on 3rd of Feb. Club Licence decision on 5th of Feb. -

Preparation for A Championship 3 years of A Championship, Under 20 League & Under 19 League. Players developing their potential for 7 years with the help of F.A.I. Emerging Talent Program. 8 Players representing Ireland at under age level.

Progressive development a success for 7 years - what now? We took this journey with Mr. John Delaney in 2004 when he came to Tralee, we heard his plans that included Kerry soccer's participation in National League on the agenda for the first time in the history of the F.A.I. by developing home grown talent.. We did it!!!!where do we go John????

**Jofspring** · 26/01/2012, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by 1dynamos

Tralee Dynamos did not "fall down", F.A.I. to visit Tralee on 3rd of Feb. Club Licence decision on 5th of Feb. -

Preparation for A Championship 3 years of A Championship, Under 20 League & Under 19 League. Players developing their potential for 7 years with the help of F.A.I. Emerging Talent Program. 8 Players representing Ireland at under age level.

Progressive development a success for 7 years - what now? We took this journey with Mr. John Delaney in 2004 when he came to Tralee, we heard his plans that included Kerry soccer's participation in National League on the agenda for the first time in the history of the F.A.I. by developing home grown talent.. We did it!!!!where do we go John????

From what you are saying Tralee should be very, very ****ed off if they are not accepted in.

Can Tralee financially support a LOI team for the coming season? If the answer is yes then they should be allowed in to compete. If not then it is not a risk worth taking for Tralee Dynamos if you ask me. Not yet anyway.

**blue til i die** · 26/01/2012, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by Jofspring

From what you are saying Tralee should be very, very ****ed off if they are not accepted in.

Can Tralee financially support a LOI team for the coming season? If the answer is yes then they should be allowed in to compete. If not then it is not a risk worth taking for Tralee Dynamos if you ask me. Not yet anyway.

Let Cobh and Tralee, be much better having a ten team league.

P.S. Couldn't Limerick pay off the money possibly owed by Cobh and then finance Tralee for the season...ye're loaded

**Jofspring** · 26/01/2012, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by blue til i die

Let Cobh and Tralee, be much better having a ten team league.

P.S. Couldn't Limerick pay off the money possibly owed by Cobh and then finance Tralee for the season...ye're loaded

Well I think Pat already sponsored Cobh kits a few years back when no one else in Cobh would so the connection is there. Its worth an e-mail anyway….he is a generous guy

**Trainee** · 26/01/2012, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by Jofspring

From what you are saying Tralee should be very, very ****ed off if they are not accepted in.

Can Tralee financially support a LOI team for the coming season? If the answer is yes then they should be allowed in to compete. If not then it is not a risk worth taking for Tralee Dynamos if you ask me. Not yet anyway.

Agree Tralee should be allowed in, Fai seem to be making it up as they go along it seems. I wonder did Fai Put pressure on Carlow to withdraw? they seemed that they would get a licence, then using Buckley park became an issue and it went all quite from them.

Fai should have planned for 12 team league ( if cobh & Gust) didn't get licence, then have a 10 team league, having a 8 team league is madness

I wonder did Fai consider a 20 team premier rather than having a 12 team & 8 team league?

**blue til i die** · 27/01/2012, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by Trainee

Agree Tralee should be allowed in, Fai seem to be making it up as they go along it seems. I wonder did Fai Put pressure on Carlow to withdraw? they seemed that they would get a licence, then using Buckley became an issue and it went all quite from them.

Fai should have planned for 12 team league ( if cobh & Gust) didn't get licence, then have a 10 team league, having a 8 team league is madness

I wonder did Fai consider a 20 team premier rather than having a 12 team & 8 team league?

Surely it could have been set as a ten team first division including Cobh and Tralee in the provisional situation. Then if they fail to get a licence, they dont take part. Setting it as a 8 team league maximum is just plain stupid. Money, time and resources wasted by those clubs.

**Terry** · 27/01/2012, 6:58 AM

Originally Posted by adamd164

Who are they trying to fool with this SD Galway malarky on the fixture list anyway... what a shambles.

It seems to be a merger of Salthill Devon and GUFC LTD. It was around town yesterday that the 2 clubs merged long ago, but that info was withheld from GUST to see if they could get them on board also. Apparently Nick Leeson & co. has got a place on the board at this new entity. The Galway FA will be well pee'd off at this news, as they thought they wouldn't see his like again. GUST did well to dodge that bullet! Insider trading at its worst.

**culloty82** · 27/01/2012, 7:21 AM

Both the Examiner and the Times confirm this is the first that either Cobh or Tralee have heard of the decision - I particularly love Fran Gavin's opinion that both clubs would be lowering the quality of the First Division:

On the decision to make it an eight- rather than 10-team division, Gavin said: "There is no point taking in teams or expanding it for the sake of it. We want to maintain the standard that’s in it. Where we are at the moment is eight clubs and that’s it."

**legendz** · 27/01/2012, 8:05 AM

I'd like to hear a reason given for not having a league to replace the A Championship. Throwing clubs on the scrapheap after years of hard work is wrong. The clubs have a bit to answer as well. They should work together to lobby for an interim league. A Limerick supporter said yesterday a reserve league should quickly be put together. Sound comment from the lad. It would at least give clubs a level to play in.

**R�iteoir** · 27/01/2012, 9:28 AM

Feel extremely sorry for both Tralee and Cobh - what the hell have these kind of clubs got to do to get admission to the League?

Delaney keeps harping on with the line of "We care about Irish Football" - like hell they do...

**Jofspring** · 27/01/2012, 10:02 AM

After all the **** that comes out of their mouths they still continue to amaze me to this day. If Lesson has anything to do with this new merger the FAI need to be lined up in front of a firing squad. Maybe cobh should have a chat with Tom Coughlan and then the FAI might grant them entry.

**gufct** · 27/01/2012, 11:07 AM

Shocking Stuff hang your heads in shame and as for Fran on a Personal level give it up it makes it even worse.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...310808680.html

**geezer** · 27/01/2012, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by legendz

I'd like to hear a reason given for not having a league to replace the A Championship. Throwing clubs on the scrapheap after years of hard work is wrong. The clubs have a bit to answer as well. They should work together to lobby for an interim league. A Limerick supporter said yesterday a reserve league should quickly be put together. Sound comment from the lad. It would at least give clubs a level to play in.

without the mad fees fines and affiliation it could be done, Tralee, Cobh, Carlow & GUST. Tralee were really led up the proverbial path, welocme to la la land, and its rumoured this morning Salthill are getting a 400k sweetener for development in drom even though club numbers are dropping, and Terryland for free to represent Galway but no one in Galway wants them representing them

**citybone** · 27/01/2012, 12:09 PM

I would prefer 2*10 team leagues, need something to fight for in the First division and something to fear in the Premier otherwise we could have a club like East Stirling just ticking away at the bottom with little fear of relegation.

**Schumi** · 27/01/2012, 1:29 PM

Originally Posted by gufct

Shocking Stuff hang your heads in shame and as for Fran on a Personal level give it up it makes it even worse.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...310808680.html

Originally Posted by Fran Gavin

the league’s executive committee simply decided last week that eight teams was the most appropriate number

Beyond belief that anyone could think an 8-team league is the best way to go when there are other teams potentially available.

**bluewhitearmy** · 27/01/2012, 2:08 PM

Originally Posted by geezer

without the mad fees fines and affiliation it could be done, Tralee, Cobh, Carlow & GUST. Tralee were really led up the proverbial path, welocme to la la land, and its rumoured this morning Salthill are getting a 400k sweetener for development in drom even though club numbers are dropping, and Terryland for free to represent Galway but no one in Galway wants them representing them

Ye keep saying this but ye have absolutely nothing to back it up at all....How can ye know that people that followed GUFC wont follow them next season?

And people that are complaining about Cobh the FAI had no choice they owed money to players no deal was agreed so as hard as it is to say the FAI were right on that one....Not a dig at Cobh by the way as i was really hoping that they would get in.