Shels v Sligo FAI Cup final - Lansdowne Road 6th Nov

**lawman** · 07/11/2011, 10:30 PM

agree with that. lots of mistakes made by lots of people yesterday...

Team selections, pass or shoot, left or right, tackle or not..
Thats what makes football the greatest sport in the world...
All the questions, the what ifs, the yes it was no it wasn't, the agree to disagree,

All we see in the heat of the moment is our own teams colours.
If we win we accept most of the refs mistakes( in our opinion), provided it doesn't have any lasting consequences, like suspensions etc, but if we lose it was all the refs fault, not the manager, not the missed attempts on goal etc

At least thats how I see it and I see far more live football at all levels from schoolboys up to international level than football on tv..... I just can't listen to all the paid experts comentating... easy to see all the right passes and give all the correct ref decisions having tv and computers to draw lines and take away all the guess work.......

Sure isnt that why rugby is so boring?

**lawman** · 07/11/2011, 10:41 PM

Was at the game and the equaliser looked a rocket... but having watched on MNS I wonder what the keeper was thinking?

Bet he cringed when he saw it.. Must be horrible to be a player and have to see your errors shown to the nation..

Maybe worse than seeing it in the ugly section

**lawman** · 07/11/2011, 10:51 PM

Again, I'm nuetral, but I didn't see much on MNS that would suggest the ref was disgraceful !!! What I did observe was the opions of all the panel... THEIR OPINIONS.... if you watch it again with the sound off then you will only notice decisions that do not go in favour of your team...... ROSE COLOURED GLASSES SYNDROME.

I believe that was first diagnosed around the time football was invented, funny coincidence that isn't it

**lawman** · 07/11/2011, 11:00 PM

"The odds are always massively in favour of the taker"

I watch a lot of late night poker and know of no stats that would back that up....

possibilities...
1. goal
2. save
3.wide
4.over the bar
5.hit the bar
6. hit the upright
7. scuff it
8. hit it too softly to cross the goal line
etc etc etc

dont see great odds there

**El-Pietro** · 07/11/2011, 11:04 PM

just to further the Richie Winters is a terrible but not biased ref

I know someone who watched the game with Turlough O'Connor and apparently hes involved in disciplinary hearings. He said that whenever theres hassle its always Winters as he likes to make games about himself

**Charlie Darwin** · 08/11/2011, 12:46 AM

Grand job he got the cup final then.

**bennocelt** · 08/11/2011, 8:29 AM

Originally Posted by Dunny

Hardly sour grapes like. The keeper was off his line.

It is if they keep moaning about it

**S.E.P.1990** · 08/11/2011, 8:37 AM

Originally Posted by Sean South

Ill give you your bite squire.
You involved in BD? No? Didn't think so. 4000 cards takes more then one lad. As for imagination each to their own but using old materials for a final not for me. Original? It's not as if any other fan group here has tried cards at that scale and pulled it off. The south stand was full of bandwagoners what would BD do in that stand?

There were two new banners used in the Shels end and a couple of older ones which where at previous matches. Considering the numbers involved in putting it together I thought they did well.

I liked the Sligo card display. Its much easier to organise unless you are putting a crest/picture on the cards themselves. (Not taking away from the efforts of those involved).

Apart from that there was very little noise from the Sligo end (I think that was a reflection of watching their team playing quite laboured football, and getting nervous). I can't remember amy real chants coming from Sligo, there was a large round of applause at one point which I assume was for a player warming up. The Shels end never really stopped chanting throughout the game....though a lot of it was quite angry chanting!!!

**dong** · 08/11/2011, 9:10 AM

Originally Posted by S.E.P.1990

Apart from that there was very little noise from the Sligo end (I think that was a reflection of watching their team playing quite laboured football, and getting nervous). I can't remember amy real chants coming from Sligo, there was a large round of applause at one point which I assume was for a player warming up. The Shels end never really stopped chanting throughout the game....though a lot of it was quite angry chanting!!!

We won the game, whether or not your chanting was louder (which I seriously doubt considering your paltry support) is irrelevant so why you keep banging on about it embarrassing yourself is a mystery.
Ask Mathews what he thinks.

**pineapple stu** · 08/11/2011, 9:14 AM

Originally Posted by lawman

"The odds are always massively in favour of the taker"

I watch a lot of late night poker and know of no stats that would back that up....

possibilities...
1. goal
2. save
3.wide
4.over the bar
5.hit the bar
6. hit the upright
7. scuff it
8. hit it too softly to cross the goal line
etc etc etc

dont see great odds there

Just wanted to highlight quite possibly the most bizarre post ever on foot.ie. And that's saying something.

Obviously hitting your cards too softly to cross the goal line is a common happening in late night poker.

**Straightstory** · 08/11/2011, 9:33 AM

Not sure which was Damian Richardson's crazier opinion last night on MNS: that Winter made the right decision in sending off Clancy, or that Ireland would have been better off drawing a bigger team (Portugal for example, I presume) in the play off rather than Estonia. The man's a fruitcake.

**TiocfaidhArmani** · 08/11/2011, 9:38 AM

I've been too sick to my stomach to post about this. The ref obviously was a shambles, what an idiot he is and ruined the game. Shels deserved to win and unfortunately didn't. Delaney I'm starting to worry about. He's making far too many clangers and now and effectively he pretty much dived away from the ball. When the pressure has been turned up the last 8-10 games he's not handled the pressure and was pretty annoyed at how bad he was at their goal.

The team though I'm so proud of, their efforts this year have been superb. Actually can't wait for next season.

**Dodge** · 08/11/2011, 9:58 AM

Originally Posted by born2bwild

I know, but the sheer incompetence of that refereeing defies credibility. How is it possible for Winter to have been so awful? It's not a matter of "believ[ing] it's a conspiracy" as you say. It's a question of not believing my eyes. I'm not looking for a conspiracy; I'm trying to make sense of what I saw and I am struggling.

Get a bleeding grip! None of the Winter decision on Sunday would rank in the top 100 worst decisions I've seen in the league. We've seen goals awarded for hitting the side netting. Goals not given because they went through a whole in the net. Players had their legs smashed and not even be awarded a free. I've seen countless defenders elbow strikers and get away with it. Offsides given for strikers intercepting back passes... etc etc etc

The interprepation of a guy falling over is nothing compared to these

And keeper not being called over coming off his line happen happens in more penalties than not.

**CSFShels** · 08/11/2011, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by lawman

"The odds are always massively in favour of the taker"

I watch a lot of late night poker and know of no stats that would back that up....

possibilities...
1. goal
2. save
3.wide
4.over the bar
5.hit the bar
6. hit the upright
7. scuff it
8. hit it too softly to cross the goal line
etc etc etc

dont see great odds there

Oh holy divine Mother of Casso.

**S.E.P.1990** · 08/11/2011, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by dong

We won the game, whether or not your chanting was louder (which I seriously doubt considering your paltry support) is irrelevant so why you keep banging on about it embarrassing yourself is a mystery.
Ask Mathews what he thinks.

Dong, get a grip will ya. We are well aware of the result, this comment had nothing to do with it, it was in reply to a mention of flags and the general atmosphere. Unlike you I wasn't having a go, just commenting on what I saw. But if you want me to bite...you had more people at the game but made less of an atmosphere, we may be paltry but at least we know how to sing. And yes, you still won the cup.....

**fionnsci** · 08/11/2011, 12:13 PM

How many did Shels bring in the end?
(Sorry if my post isn't bitter/controversial enough for this thread).

**marinobohs** · 08/11/2011, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Grand job he got the cup final then.

.....only in Ireland would such a serial f*** up get near a cup final

complete muppet and ref most likely to believe people are paying to see him rather than football match.

Self regulation has been an unmitigated disaster in so many areas of Irish life. Until such time as there is real accountibility among refs we will continue to have many games turned into a lottery (Shels benifited from adiodgy red in the semi) of refs screw ups.

**OneForTheFuture** · 08/11/2011, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by fionnsci

How many did Shels bring in the end?
(Sorry if my post isn't bitter/controversial enough for this thread).

Anywhere between 200 (if you listen to a Limerick fan) to 5000

**joeSoap** · 08/11/2011, 12:23 PM

funny man...

**LeixlipRed** · 08/11/2011, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by lawman

"The odds are always massively in favour of the taker"

I watch a lot of late night poker and know of no stats that would back that up....

possibilities...
1. goal
2. save
3.wide
4.over the bar
5.hit the bar
6. hit the upright
7. scuff it
8. hit it too softly to cross the goal line
etc etc etc

dont see great odds there

I never post anymore on here but I just say you've inspired me to hand back my degree and masters in maths. Teach me more oh wise one.