Shels v Sligo FAI Cup final - Lansdowne Road 6th Nov

**Dodge** · 07/11/2011, 6:12 PM

Originally Posted by CSFShels

Wouldn't really make alot of sense to change the technique he has used for years for that reason.

Considering he faced 4 and conceded 4, I think i'd be trying something different for the last one...

**CSFShels** · 07/11/2011, 6:27 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Considering he faced 4 and conceded 4, I think i'd be trying something different for the last one...

Not really that simple. The odds are always massively in favour of the taker. Deano has saved plenty in his time with us. Just wasn't his day with the penos. His keeping for their goal however is another story.

**shellyriver** · 07/11/2011, 6:40 PM

Originally Posted by ger121

Was at the match. Seated in the upper east stand on the half way line. Despite you outnumbering the Shels fans 3-1, they out sang you for most of the match

Didn't out sing me matey.

What were you out with your decible meter? Did, it remind you of the 'hard core' Sligo Rovers fans at Dalymount who out-numbered and out-sang Bohs fans two years in a row?

Have no problem with most Dublin fans that I have ever met -- hi-fived a few Shels lads before the game. But must be stated, their vocal turnout was very poor, all things considered.

Must dash going to enjoy evening at the Showgies with the Little-Bit-a-Red boys.

**Dodge** · 07/11/2011, 6:43 PM

Originally Posted by shellyriver

Have no problem with most Dublin fans that I have ever met -- hi-fived a few Shels lads before the game

You sound like one cool dude

**shellyriver** · 07/11/2011, 6:55 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

You sound like one cool dude

Hell ya, but so were they -- so that's cool!

**born2bwild** · 07/11/2011, 6:57 PM

Just watching the replay footage on MNS. Shameful, disgraceful refereeing. I've heard a fair few tinfoil hat stories around Tolka Park about the FAI and of course, I've dismissed them. Now I'm starting to wonder.

**Nah Nah Nah Nah** · 07/11/2011, 7:23 PM

No penalty but no second yellow card

Kelly well off his line for all the penalties (they were very poor penalties none the less).

However Paisley should never have lasted the whole game

**Dodge** · 07/11/2011, 7:35 PM

Every club thinks the FAI have it in for them. They're all right

Nothing worse than fans who can't accept people make mistakes and believe its a conspiracy against them

**Oldred** · 07/11/2011, 8:00 PM

Well at least Shels made their own bit of history yesterday. Beaten twice in the FAI cup in the same year!!

**born2bwild** · 07/11/2011, 8:17 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

Every club thinks the FAI have it in for them. They're all right

Nothing worse than fans who can't accept people make mistakes and believe its a conspiracy against them

I know, but the sheer incompetence of that refereeing defies credibility. How is it possible for Winter to have been so awful? It's not a matter of "believ[ing] it's a conspiracy" as you say. It's a question of not believing my eyes. I'm not looking for a conspiracy; I'm trying to make sense of what I saw and I am struggling.

Didn't Winter see Kelly standing yards off his line for those penalties? If he did see it, why did he choose not to apply the rules of the game? If he didn't see it what was he looking at and who decided that a blind man was suitable to be the referee of the FAI cup final?

**ger121** · 07/11/2011, 8:35 PM

Originally Posted by shellyriver

Didn't out sing me matey.

What were you out with your decible meter? Did, it remind you of the 'hard core' Sligo Rovers fans at Dalymount who out-numbered and out-sang Bohs fans two years in a row?

Have no problem with most Dublin fans that I have ever met -- hi-fived a few Shels lads before the game. But must be stated, their vocal turnout was very poor, all things considered.

Must dash going to enjoy evening at the Showgies with the Little-Bit-a-Red boys.

Just giving my opinion on what I observed. You of course will have yours. As the saying goes, opinions are like arseholes everyone has one...

**Fivesilver** · 07/11/2011, 8:55 PM

Originally Posted by born2bwild

I'm not looking for a conspiracy; I'm trying to make sense of what I saw and I am struggling.

I take it you haven't seen much of Richie Winter before. The chat among people I know all week was that he had the potential to seriously mess up the final. He's an utter muppet. No conspiracy - it just happened that he did more damage to you than to us yesterday. He's mucked things up for us in the past on more than one occasion. He was always going to make a pig's micky out of it - the only question was who was going to suffer more.

**bluewhitearmy** · 07/11/2011, 9:25 PM

Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie

Over 5000 actually.

Great display and atmosphere from BD. Very disappointed with the display and atmosphere from Sligo

I highly doubt there was 500 never mind more but thats just my opinion.

Shels fans were far better though sang all through the game Sligo fans were very quiet.

**CSFShels** · 07/11/2011, 9:34 PM

Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah

No penalty but no second yellow card

Kelly well off his line for all the penalties (they were very poor penalties none the less).

However Paisley should never have lasted the whole game

Paisley definitely should have received the second yellow card once he'd been booked, but his first yellow card was never even a free-kick so it kinda evened itself?

**born2bwild** · 07/11/2011, 9:39 PM

Originally Posted by Fivesilver

I take it you haven't seen much of Richie Winter before. The chat among people I know all week was that he had the potential to seriously mess up the final. He's an utter muppet. No conspiracy - it just happened that he did more damage to you than to us yesterday. He's mucked things up for us in the past on more than one occasion. He was always going to make a pig's micky out of it - the only question was who was going to suffer more.

No, I saw him send off a Bohs player (Downes?) a month or two ago out in Tallaght.

Edit: No he wasn't the ref for that.

**Hairy Bowsie** · 07/11/2011, 9:52 PM

Originally Posted by Sean South

Shels end was more impressive over all through out the game it was a security nightmare as mentioned above our end.

On displays it was easier for Shels having the north stand. It suits all league of Ireland ultras groups better because of the size but BD reused a old crowd cover and their tifo would be lost and not really noticed if it was in the south stand. Both tifos in this video but I think ours was better but I'm biased. Rovers fans also had a load of pyro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Dz-yqB6Jw

You are biased because in the showpiece final, your lot did a card display? Any one person can organise a card display, lack of effort and imagination

**shellyriver** · 07/11/2011, 9:56 PM

Originally Posted by ger121

Just giving my opinion on what I observed. You of course will have yours. As the saying goes, opinions are like arseholes everyone has one...

What I averred was predominately not opinion, as for the last sentence...let's end the metaphor here...for everyone's sake....

**mypost** · 07/11/2011, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by born2bwild

Shameful, disgraceful refereeing. I've heard a fair few tinfoil hat stories around Tolka Park about the FAI and of course, I've dismissed them. Now I'm starting to wonder.

Stop wondering. The refs may be incompetent ~~(Martin Hansson,~~ ~~Mike Reed,~~ ~~Alan Kelly)~~ but they are neutral.

**lawman** · 07/11/2011, 10:16 PM

"................., but his first yellow card was never even a free-kick so it kinda evened itself? "

clear yellow card for me... but I'm a football supporter not supporter of a particular club

seriously though, I think it was for stopping the attack rather than being danegerous or anything more sinister. after all nobody was hurt and the medical people didnt have to come on,(as far as I remember)...
Anybody clarify that for me?

**Sean South** · 07/11/2011, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie

You are biased because in the showpiece final, your lot did a card display? Any one person can organise a card display, lack of effort and imagination

Ill give you your bite squire.
You involved in BD? No? Didn't think so. 4000 cards takes more then one lad. As for imagination each to their own but using old materials for a final not for me. Original? It's not as if any other fan group here has tried cards at that scale and pulled it off. The south stand was full of bandwagoners what would BD do in that stand?