QuoteOK it was 4 and it was more than 15 years ago. Do you remember every minor result from back then??
But my 'reality' is no less pertinent than yours...
Well AB, who knows what account of past events relating to Irish football is stored your head, but the one sure thing is that it bears little or no relation to realityOriginally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
OK it was 4 and it was more than 15 years ago. Do you remember every minor result from back then??
But my 'reality' is no less pertinent than yours...
Any 'real fan' would remember a qualifying result.OK it was 4 and it was more than 15 years ago. Do you remember every minor result from back then??
But my 'reality' is no less pertinent than yours...
Offhand I recall a poxy Sunday afternoon o-o draw at Lansdowne, Keano booed, Aldo retired, and a shaky 4-2 win in Iceland where the Iceland goalie gifted the lucky Irish 2 goals. That goalie managed to survive a post match crucifixion and a 6 year stigmatised exile, and is still playing in the Icelandic league today, aged 40+ something.
So you can. like GR. shove your 7 goals over 2 games memory, where the sun doesn't shine, if there's any room left up there
Yeah, right. Of interest again, to a minority of pretty much one...
I thought I already hadSo, you can shove your Steve Menary assumptions where the sun don't shine
Anyway, apologies to Geysir and any other Icelanders reading, that last comment wasn't intended as the p*ss-take you may have read it as. I've long regarded pot five (where you were seeded for 2012, 2010 and 2008) as one of minnows, as opposed to the krill in number six.
Hoping for a few more rays of sunshine before the Nordic winter kicks in.
AB, do us a favor and add anyone I've forgotten to the list you think should be excluded from European qualifying. So far there's current or past attractions in the British colonial theme park, village countries whether genuinely independent or not, everywhere east of Moscow and Istanbul (although Georgia and Armenia have been almost universally regarded as part of Christendom for more than a thousand years), and of course all not actually on the peninsula of Europe or who once got away with a blatant handball. Thanks in advance.
PS how exactly does/ should it work in Kosovo Mitrovica, since you're obviously an expert on the area? Ta again.
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Okay, so, Kosovo, I'm not keen on recognising a bandit state, despite the land being beautiful and possessing a dreamlike quality. It is run for the benefit of the US and their global war on, well, whatever takes your fancy. The whole scale removal of the Croatian (catholic) community is almost complete and the Kosovan government are responsible for the looting and sale of sacred relics from the former enclave. So letting the crims at the head of this statelet get further recognition, I don't know. Why not let in Republika Srpska, Croatian Herzegovina and Transdnestria, ganglands like Kosovo but without the US military bases.
If the Caucasus republics go solo, you've got a rake (a proper term) of republics from Russia to go, Tatarstan, the Jewish Republic, Komi, Mordovia, Chuvashia etc etc. Though the AJR will probably going into Asia. It can get messy.
Still don't know about pre-qualifying, anywhere, let the big boys slog it out and spread the light. As it's going we're going to have a closed shop like the 3/6 nations where countries willing to put the work in are excluded.
GR,
Except we've already had this 'debate', not just here but elsewhere! On numerous occasions.
So you might need to refresh your own memory!
Not to mention improving your spelling. And 'comedy'.
Take the other point about Kosovo, but it and various other areas are far more legitimate entities than glorified shopping parks like Gibraltar...
Even Srpska, which when I was there, had aspirations to be part of a 'Greater' Serbia, not just another joke territory?
Then don't reply, posting nonsense, if it's of no interest to you.
but I guess your problem is you don't know it's nonsense when you post.
Just assume what you're going to reply is nonsense and move on.
Hmm, takes one to know one.
Not to mention 'people in glass houses'...re.nonsense.
Take a pill and chill.
Already following Ireland's lead: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24158900
Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).
That's a desperately pathetic attempt to give a synopsis of the Kosova claim for independence from their imposed (post WW2) connection with Serbia.
But that's not really up for debate in this section.
Kosova is recognised as a republic by the majority in Europe and elsewhere. And it's only a matter of time before de jure becomes de facto.
As to what constitutes a nation is another discussion, but it's not ethnicity, language, religion or race. There are countless examples of nations with various combinations of all 4 components. Discord happens when one ethnic group is treated as 2nd class, suppressed in some shape or form and the ethnic group seeks independence.
India contains a multitude of states, far more diverse in language and culture, than what exists between the various states of Europe. It was the English who united India into its current shape. And in almost every federal state in India, there are independence movements, primarily because one (majority) ethnic group in a federal state seeks to dominate another minority ethnic group, whether it be with language, culture, political representation, economic exploitation, job opportunities etc.
Last edited by geysir; 19/09/2013 at 2:00 PM.
I remember there were a lot of rumours 5-10 years ago about the senior figures in the Kosovan Goverment (or the KLA, at the time) being involved in organ trafficking. It seemed they would take the organs out of prisoners (and later foreigners who had been promised jobs in the country) and transplant them into fee paying health tourists. Wasn't there some big controversy there where some Turkish kid collapsed at an airport after selling/being forced to sell his kidney, and the trail ended up going back to the Kosovan Health Minister?
I don't know what criminal activity has to do with Kosovo's popularly recognised claim for independence or what it has to do with validating Serbia's (some would say) bizarre claim to 'own' Kosovo or Kosovo's long campaign to get Uefa/Fifa recognition for their football team.
http://www.uefa.com/memberassociatio...gib/index.html
Its official, Gibraltar will have a team from now on, and two league teams in UEfA football comps
Do they even have a League? And has got to be a fairly low standard, well below even the LSL?
Of course they have a league. And of course, as UEFA members, they get to enter club teams into Euro competition, same as San Marino and Andorra and any other micro-nation.
Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).
Yeah, but San Marino/Andorra teams play in neighbouring countries leagues.
Gibraltar don't have that luxury...
San Marino and Andorra still have leagues though.
But according to their FA's their best, albeit very poor, clubs play in the Lge. 'pyramid' of their neighbouring FA?
They have one team in the neighbouring FA alright, but they can't qualify for Europe.
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