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    So the Cyprus Turkish Football Association will soon be no more (than a regional FA)... a precedent for us splitters perhaps?

    The Cyprus Football Association (CFA) and Cyprus Turkish Football Association (CFTA) have signed a provisional arrangement for football in Cyprus, which aims to unify and facilitate the progress of football on the Mediterranean island after more than five decades of separation.

    The arrangement, which has come to fruition following several months of consultation and discussion, was signed on Tuesday at FIFA's headquarters in Zurich by the CFA president Costakis Koutsokoumnis, CTFA president Hasan Sertoğlu, FIFA President Joseph Blatter and UEFA President Michel Platini.

    A number of principles govern the arrangement. The signatories pledge to respect fully the FIFA and UEFA statutes and all international sport principles. Under the arrangement, the CFA, as a member of FIFA and UEFA, is deemed the governing body responsible for organising, administering and controlling football in Cyprus, as well as the body responsible for any international football activities in Cyprus.

    In addition, the arrangement concerns only football-related matters, does not set any precedent for the Cypriot political issue, and remains provisional until a solution is found in relation to Cyprus, which has been partitioned since 1974. The arrangement comes into force upon the approval of the CFA and CTFA general assemblies.

    "Today is a historic day for football in Cyprus, but also for the Cypriot people in general," said Mr Koutsokoumnis. "After 60 years of separation, it is now possible to reunite football. The fact that we have got to this stage, under the auspices of FIFA and UEFA, and drawn up and signed a road map for a united Cypriot football gives us all hope that we can solve all of the issues that lie ahead, provided the good will shown until now continues.

    "To our Turkish Cypriot friends, I say that they have gained from our reunification," he added. "Our warmest thanks to President Blatter for his crucial role today, to President Platini, to the Turkish Cypriot delegation, with whom we shall be meeting with more often from now, and the CFA members delegation for the support that they have shown me."

    "We live in a world in which it is more difficult to divide than to unite, which means that today is all the more exceptional," said Mr Platini. "It is a historic moment for Cypriot football, and I would like to congratulate the presidents of the two associations, who have shown exemplary courage and perseverance."

    "Both the Cyprus Football Association and the Cyprus Turkish Football Association are today providing the whole world with an excellent example of how football can build bridges and bring people together after a long period of conflict," said Mr Blatter. "I would like to thank both associations and UEFA for their outstanding contribution to this milestone arrangement."

    A number of provisions are to be implemented under the arrangement. The CTFA will become a member of the CFA as an association, in accordance with the CFA statutes and regulations, with all clubs registered under the CTFA automatically becoming indirect members of the CFA. The CFA will also recognise the CTFA's competences over CTFA football matters, including the right to organise championships among its members in accordance with FIFA and UEFA statutes and regulations.

    Both associations agree to set up a steering committee to work for the implementation of the arrangement, and covering areas such as participation in CFA competitions; development programmes offered by FIFA and UEFA; club friendly and friendly international matches; participation in the UEFA Regions' Cup; UEFA coaching licence system for Turkish-Cypriot coaches; refereeing, match observers and international referees.
    http://www.uefa.com/memberassociatio...ent+for+Cyprus
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    Good stuff. Eminently sensible.
    Though in our part of the world, some clowns would see this as an equivalent to political unification, which is still a long way off...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    So the Cyprus Turkish Football Association will soon be no more (than a regional FA)... a precedent for us splitters perhaps?



    http://www.uefa.com/memberassociatio...ent+for+Cyprus
    It's not the same though, is it? This is akin to Kosovo mending their differences with Serbia and rejoining the football association.

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    What does this mean? Will Turkish Cypriot clubs join the Cypriot league? Will the turkish players get a chance to play for the Cyprus national team? will north Cyprus still play in the non fifa competitions like the NF world cup.
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    A far as I understand, the Turkish Cypriot association was not a member of UEFA/FIFA - Northern (Turkish) Cyprus is not recognised as a state or separate entity by either body - but now they're joining the recognised Cypriot association and will fall under its wing as a "regional" association.

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    http://www.ktff.net/NewsDetail/Index/26

    Participation of Northern Cyprus in Cypriot Competitions. I'm guessing the Cypriot Cup would be easily sorted. Im also guessing the North Cyprus league is a lower standard due to less international competition. Merging of leagues seems less feasible straight away especially without a political solution to the divide.
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24942820

    Gibraltar get started as a UEFA member tomorrow.
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    More fool UEFA...

    They haven't even got their own ground, but are playing their games in Portugal, until they build a new one.
    Bit of a farce to put it mildly.

    Monaco and The Vatican have more legitimate claims.
    Last edited by ArdeeBhoy; 19/11/2013 at 9:09 AM.

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    Gibraltar 0-0 Slovakia at half time, per their twitter

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    More fool UEFA...

    They haven't even got their own ground, but are playing their games in Portugal, until they build a new one.
    Bit of a farce to put it mildly.

    Monaco and The Vatican have more legitimate claims.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vi...est_stands.JPG Looks ok to me/better than andora. Vatican have no claim, they have no pitch within the countries boundaries.
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Gibraltar).jpg Might have a problem with wind when planes are landing/taking off.
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    They're hardly the first UEFA team to have to play games outside of their territory. Was it a farce when Andorra did it? Like them, they'll play at home when they're capable of it. Your obvious hostility to the very idea of Gibraltar might be colouring your opinion of their playing arrangements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by citybone View Post
    Vatican have no claim, they have no pitch within the countries boundaries.
    For now, they'll have to stick to the tried and tested downloading of illegal copies of Football Manager 2014 to get their football in the Vatican.

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    Andorra is a country and full U.N. member, Gibraltar is neither and probably never will be.
    As a Brit.territory, it's got more right to send MP's to Westminster than be a member of UEFA, FFS.

    The Vatican has definitely got more right too. And something in common with Ireland. See if you can guess, before clicking the link.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican..._football_team

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    And I'm sure there are plenty of good pitches in the neighbourhood of the Vatican that could be used. I see the problem/drawback more to do with sex for procreation purposes not being allowed and the lack of a maternity unit as the killer blow.

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    Not really.

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    A random thought occurred to me after my "Be A Pro" signed on with Barcelona in FIFA: What would happen to that club in the event of Catalan independence? And Espanyol? Both seen as big symbols of Catalan culture and independence (in a way), but Barca at least would be looking to follow Derry City's lead right?
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    Correct me if I am wrong, but i think Espanyol represent the people who want to remain with Spain, and are very much hated by Barca fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    A random thought occurred to me after my "Be A Pro" signed on with Barcelona in FIFA: What would happen to that club in the event of Catalan independence? And Espanyol? Both seen as big symbols of Catalan culture and independence (in a way), but Barca at least would be looking to follow Derry City's lead right?
    There are quite a few examples around the globe of clubs playing in leagues outside of their own geographical jurisdiction. I can't imagine it would be difficult to grant Barcelona similar "exception" if all parties concerned were in favour and stood to benefit.

    Trivia question; which three football clubs have won the top-flight league championship of another country or jurisdiction?

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    Correct me if I am wrong, but i think Espanyol represent the people who want to remain with Spain, and are very much hated by Barca fans.
    I suspect you're probably right. I'd never really thought about it before, but the club's name does seem a bit of a give-away. It translates into English as Royal Spanish Sports Club of Barcelona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Trivia question; which three football clubs have won the top-flight league championship of another country or jurisdiction?
    Derry, TNS (Oswestry) and - a Canadian team winning the MLS maybe?

    Edit - or is it that Brunei team playing in Singapore and Indonesia?
    Last edited by pineapple stu; 30/11/2013 at 9:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Trivia question; which three football clubs have won the top-flight league championship of another country or jurisdiction?

    FC Vaduz of Liechtenstein in Switzerland?

    Does Monaco qualify for this? They've surely won the French league a few times?
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