QuoteThat's mental stuff. Roll on 12pm.
Good post, I particularly like this bit! And to think...that was the better of our two goals on the night!Originally Posted by mypost
That's mental stuff. Roll on 12pm.
I really dislike articles like this:
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...305704592.html
They always arise around any time of a draw and are completely short sited. Discussions about how the FAI would be thrilled to draw Germany, Spain etc and in this instance Turkey as the revenue generated from a tie against Turkey would be exponentially higher than against either the other three sides.
But by the same token if we draw Turkey our chances of qualification are exponentially lower than were we to draw the other 3 sides. And thus our opportunity to cash in on the real windfall that is the Euros themselves are reduced dramatically.
Bosnia are better than Turkey. But no-one seems to believe me.
i'd rather the czechs. they lost 3 games in a poor group, and only a dodgy looking pen in the last minutes away in scotland got them over the line. they are nowhere near the force they were in the past.
from our potential opponents, bosnia are interesting. they won all their games at home, bar france, but only won once away - v luxemembourg. if we get them it would be better to be away first.
turkey have a very similar record - all wins at home bar v germany, one win on the road v Kazakhstan.
Last edited by zero; 13/10/2011 at 9:32 AM.
I believe you, don't worry!
Much rather Turkey over Bosnia. Much rather again one of the other two though.
We all do.
Or should.
Montenegro are now better than Turkey, surely?
One for the statisticians...
Montenegro are more of a known quantity, I suppose.
I think Turkey could suit us well enough alright. They're main strength over the years has been their intimidating atmosphere in Istanbul. I think our biggest strength is being able to go away from home and 'do a job'. That would give us a reasonable chance. Overall I'd rate our chances something along the lines of:
Bosnia & Herzigovina (40%)
Turkey (50%)
Montenegro (55%)
Estonia (85%)
Last edited by DeLorean; 13/10/2011 at 10:03 AM. Reason: Overly confident against Montenegro on reflection
An hour to go now to the start of the draw.
So probably an hour and a half till we find out who we play.
We're ****ed plain and simple if we get Bosnia, they're a fantastic team and oceans better than us. We have a chance against anyone but them.
On what evidence are they "oceans" better than us? Their record in the last two campaigns is almost identical to ours. A very tight one to call, but by no means whatsover are they "oceans better than us".
Dear God of football, don't draw Turkey, please!
just looking at the ranking and performance of the second placed teams: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Eu...d-placed_teams
Turkey got by some distance the worst results, and are the only team in the play offs to finish with a negative goal difference. Won all their home games, bar a loss to Germany, but only won once away to Kazakhstan
Estonia had possibly the worst result in qualifying across every group, losing 2-0 away to the Faroe Islands, and are by a distance the team we want
Despite the claims that we don't score that often, Montenegro only scored seven goals in qualifiers, but only conceded seven, and failed to score away to England and Switzerland, incidentally they are the only team not to score in Switzerland
Bosnia's home form was excellent, winning all but one game, a loss to France, and scoring 10 goals in the other 5 games including 5 past Luxembourg. Slightly weaker away from home, only beating Belarus and Luxembourg, scoring seven goals in five games, but failing to score against Romania in a 3-0 loss.
Predictions:
Estonia: Win both legs
Turkey: draw away, win at home
Montenegro: win at home, can't call the away game
Bosnia: very tough away from home, possibly home win
Anyone have a stream for this.... not on in Oz! Cheers!
We're ****ed then, we've got to have used up all our luck this campaign in Moscow.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/livestreaming/soccer.html
But not working for me.
It's on the UEFA website.
Also - previous experiences in play-off for the teams in the draw. http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro2012/new...d=1695878.html
They've failed to recall Ireland's play-off against Spain for the 1966 World Cup. So we've actually lost five out of six.
Thanks for the effort, but RTE is only available within Ireland..... think I might have it on Eurosport!
They've only finished behind Spain, Portugal and a post Domenech France. We've finished behind a Round 1 defeated Italy, a Round 1 defeated Domenech France and a weak Russian side. We are as I said oceans behind them.
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