Trapattoni - who would you replace him with?

**ArdeeBhoy** · 08/09/2013, 2:35 PM

??
Why?

**DannyInvincible** · 08/09/2013, 2:42 PM

Originally Posted by Crosby87

I'm surprised there are no jokes about Roy leaving before the Sweden game due to bacon sandwiches.

Leaving where before the Sweden game?

**peadar1987** · 08/09/2013, 5:36 PM

Originally Posted by bennocelt

Or applaud them off the field, "well done boys". Maybe thats why we never will win anything in football, we except such mediocrity!

We'll never win anything in football because of the whole set-up of our youth structure, which is the epitome of the win-at-all-costs-or-you'll-be-booed-off-the-field culture prevalent in the British and Irish game.

**The Fly** · 08/09/2013, 6:58 PM

Originally Posted by peadar1987

We'll never win anything in football because of the whole set-up of our youth structure...

I'm gonna stick my neck out and put it down to Spain, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, Italy etc...

**liamoo11** · 08/09/2013, 8:11 PM

any chance dave o leary would do a god job?

**Grafter** · 08/09/2013, 8:15 PM

Originally Posted by liamoo11

any chance dave o leary would do a god job?

Methinks not. O' Neill was a bit of a busted flush in last days at Sunderland.... John Giles always said Roy Keane was made for international football management because players get him in short, sharp doses and then he's out of their immediate live again.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 08/09/2013, 8:24 PM

Er, a complete bottle merchant?

No thanks...

**Eminence Grise** · 08/09/2013, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by liamoo11

any chance dave o leary would do a god job?

Well, some might say he already thinks's he's God...

I couldn't see him serving up the turgid excuse for football that Trap has been slopping up for the last few years. Given the mediocre CVs the FAI can expect to receive when Trap goes, he'd be no worse than most.

**gastric** · 08/09/2013, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by The Fly

I'm gonna stick my neck out and put it down to Spain, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, Italy etc...

On that one, watched Brazil play with Australia at the weekend and win 6-0. The Aussies are a bit like us, energetic and a bit ordinary on the technical front, but the Brazilians out ran them and outplayed them. Their technical ability and creativity were a joy to watch. They will win the World Cup on this present form and recently beat Spain 3-0.

**mark12345** · 08/09/2013, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

IF that didn't work out!!? Roy Keane working with Martin O'Neill!! What planet do you inhabit?

In case people didn't notice, the Swedes hoofed the ball out from their goalkeeper as much as we did. The difference was they were slightly more constructive when the ball bounced their way and they had Ibrahimovic.

"Free flowing football" - can't wait to see John O'Shea and Richard Dunne playing it out from the back like Franz Beckenbauer. These continentals won't know what's hit them.

And all of that means...........what?

**boovidge** · 08/09/2013, 11:06 PM

An article in the Mail which adds very little of substance. Basically O'Neill is favourite and there are some others in the mix. Quinn says we're going to be in the doldrums for a bit and that we need to prepare our players better before we ship them off to England.

**DannyInvincible** · 08/09/2013, 11:16 PM

Why the presumption that our players have to be shipped off to England?

**Charlie Darwin** · 08/09/2013, 11:17 PM

Quinn's attitude is pretty telling. It's all focused on preparing players for England. There's no school of thought that we should be developing players who could succeed anywhere, no suggestion we should be developing players like Kevin Doyle who can grow up with their family around them, with the support to develop their skills and have the attributes to succeed in any European league. It's all about giving them technical skills so they can move to England as a teenager and hopefully grow up as men within that system. It's the type of short-sighted approach that has stunted Irish football for decades. We don't produce men, we produce products for English clubs.

**Grafter** · 08/09/2013, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by boovidge

Quinn says we're going to be in the doldrums for a bit and that we need to prepare our players better before we ship them off to England.

FFS! When are we not in the doldrums? We're there permanently anyways! I love the psychic powers of all these ex-players - they really should be mediums solving future crimes!

**DannyInvincible** · 08/09/2013, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Quinn's attitude is pretty telling. It's all focused on preparing players for England.

I know they have personal interest or involvement in particular English clubs, but it was still a bit surreal watching Quinn and Darragh MacAnthony - two Irishmen - referring to "we" and "us" in relation to the general transfer dealings English football clubs on SSN's transfer deadline day broadcast last week.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 08/09/2013, 11:52 PM

Tbf they both work and operate within the English game.

Irish domestic football is barely solvent, if at all. Short of 25 sugar-daddies, they're not going to have the money to pay our top players...
Unless of course they all turn out to be of a very low standard compared to now.

**Grafter** · 08/09/2013, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

I know they have personal interest or involvement in particular English clubs, but it was still a bit surreal watching Quinn and Darragh MacAnthony - two Irishmen - referring to "we" and "us" in relation to the general transfer dealings English football clubs on SSN's transfer deadline day broadcast last week.

MacAnthony was good telly I have to say, in terms of Quinn and Sky Sports, I'm still haunted by visiting a friend's house at half time during UEFA Super Cup to see Niall on my mate's widescreen tv with his wide legs apart making it impossible to avoid viewing his eh..."zipper area".

**Charlie Darwin** · 09/09/2013, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

Tbf they both work and operate within the English game.

Irish domestic football is barely solvent, if at all. Short of 25 sugar-daddies, they're not going to have the money to pay our top players...
Unless of course they all turn out to be of a very low standard compared to now.

It's not barely solvent. Most clubs make money. They're in better financial health than the average English or Scottish club and without TV money. They do so without the help of a national association that promotes football in the country or a domestic population that likes live football. They do so because they've experienced the worst of financial excess and adjusted to face the reality, but they are properly run now.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 09/09/2013, 12:39 AM

Hmm, it's not what I read on here and elsewhere. The no.of club failures is testament to that.

Most people who go to watch live sport in Ireland who don't go to live soccer is because they perceive the product to be generally of low quality and/or poor value for money.
Presuming a team is accessible to them and they have an inclination to go regularly.

**boovidge** · 09/09/2013, 12:49 AM

Quinn and others have rightly pointed out that, with the English league attracting players from around the world there's less of a chance for Irish players at top Premier League clubs. What's strange is the continuing presumption that it has to be England where our players are nutured, rather than in our own domestic league or further afield in continental Europe, for example.