QuoteOr the mantra that keeps being brought up by WUMs who know full well that the supporters don't think that of themselves. The term is only used by those looking for a stick to beat the fans with.Originally Posted by Murfinator
Best supporters in the world (tm).
Its the joke that never stops giving.
Or the mantra that keeps being brought up by WUMs who know full well that the supporters don't think that of themselves. The term is only used by those looking for a stick to beat the fans with.
Have the posters slating people for not being happy at the Irish comeback considered the possibility that these fans genuinely believe that Trapattoni is not doing a good enough job and the team are heading in the wrong direction, and the best way for this Irish team to turn a corner would be for him to not be the manager anymore? In which case, a loss to Kazakhstan might bring about the desired change faster.
Or even the notion that there are lots of Ireland fans, and some can be idiots while the majority are hugely popular abroad.
I don't think Trap is doing a good enough job yet I was nearly doing cartwheels. Why would anyone want a campaign to suffer what would practically be a fatal slip-up just so case to discard the manager would be strengthened, especially when he wouldn't have left anyway?
If you applied this logic to every match, we could beat Germany and Sweden and people would still be hoping for us to lose against Austria. And I guarantee that if we did there would still be people calling for Trap's head.
I'd seperate the anti-JD/"corporate" angle from the footballing arguments against Trap. In fact, though, I think both are kind of generic arguments that all newspapers and media outlets broadly share.
Maybe they think he's doing a worse job still.
Because they think that the chances of qualification are very very slim anyway, and it's better to build for the future as soon as possible?
I don't know these people or their motivations, but I think it's unfair to dismiss anybody wanting the team to lose for these possible reasons as an idiot, gobsheens, etc.
I can't imagine too many fans not seeing this as evidence that the team has turned a corner.
Really?
In an Irish context no manager has surivived for long or his teams results improved once the majority of the fans have turned against him. And to be honest (other than possibily Mick McCarthy) all deserved to go when they did. IMO most Irish football supporters are not dummies and are fairly loyal to the management and players. But if they see Plan A is not working and all that is offered is Plan A over and over again then they are going to turn on you.
No. Why I even answered this I dunno... :P
Now if you don't make it to Fulham tomorrow I may re-consider.
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
I saw comments on FB from lads who had travelled to Astana, who expressed a disappointment at getting the equaliser and winner in a belief that a defeat may well have seen Trap sacked. (A) it wouldnt have seen Trap sacked (B) I havent spoken to those concerned directly but I find it really hard to believe they were genuine sentiments but if so, it would start to dispel the notion it is barstoolers only.
I dont care how bad Trap gets or the team performs or JD gets paid, I'll always want my country to win. Simples.
I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?
"No, I drink to help me mind my own business....can I get you one? (c) Ronnie Drew
One question...why would you travel halfway across the world, to hope to see a team get beat in order to get the manager sacked? If I was that p!ssed off I wouldn't travel the length of the country to see the team.
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
Superfan syndrome.
Personally delighted we pulled it out of the fire. I remember Liechtenstein well and don't ever want to feel that kind of international embarrassment again!
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Yes, really.
To be fair, it could have been put more clearly.
Has anyone mentioned Sean O Driscoll, the new Forest manager who could be top of the Championship next week?
Andy Reid has shed pounds since he joined apparently, too inexperienced obviously perhaps.
He has three Ireland caps (Sean not Andy).
Yip...
http://foot.ie/threads/157804-Trappa...=1#post1625465
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
Did you throw down or are you too old to fight Shaker? You have to fight in a situation like that right? Tom Cruise would have in Far and Away.
No Somos muchos pero estamos locos.
I saw the goals being welcomed in a very subdued manner. People weren't gutted where I was, but just rolled their eyes or cheered sarcastically. Were a few who expressed "Guess they won't sack him now ffs" type sentiments.
I don't actually think Trap would have been given the shove if we had lost.
Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).
I was screaming my head off when the peno was given, and roared when the winner went in. It was pretty late here and I've got Kazakhs downstairs as neighbours (not to mention some Tajiks). I'm delighted when Ireland win, disappointed when they lose and relieved at times with a point. It sickens me to see the delight expressed by many (mouthing the usual - this will get the manager sacked) when Ireland are losing. Unfortunately the worst type of eejit you meet in the pub is the one gobsheen who sits there being contrary. He never gets his round, usually ends up getting a smack in the mouth, and will always "tell you so". Our meeja is full of them - not just sports. Now I feel contrary myself and want Trap to succeed further just to stick it up to the meeja.
Oh, and one lovely thing that came out, from Richie the genius, and some other shareholders in the same brain cell - "is this what we're reduced to, playing for a play-off spot, 2nd place in a group. This is the height of our ambition?" Fvck yeah! Germany, Sweden and Austria....when the draw was made we were thrilled to go for 2nd spot. Suddenly it's not enough.
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