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    Quote Originally Posted by back of the net View Post
    How would I know the answer if I dont know who all the candidates are?

    If the only official candidates are o neill and roy then i want mick but i seriously doubt that they are and if the FAI are speaking to others who are interested then It would be silly to pick Mick while there could be other candidates available who may be able to offer more .
    I meant more in the sense of who you wuld actually like to see in the job.
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    It's a reactionary interview process this time, to find a manager who already knows the players and who's based in England.
    Would MON have dithered if he'd been offered the England job that time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    The Examiner is saying Ray and Ruudy met with Martin O'Neill in Donegal last week and are due to interview Mick next week. Mick will have a Terry Connor as sidekick with an ex-player as a third coach. Mark Kennedy is believed to be leading the contenders for that role although Carsley, Cunningham and Kilbane are also possibles.

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/s...rs-247486.html

    Kilbane favours Mick but says Keane would be good. His season taking over when Sunderland were at the bottom of Championship and ended up winning it was a great achievement.

    Anyway, looks like things are hotting up.

    I was always under the impression that Roy got a rather large transfer budget when he took over Sunderland though - a considerably large one for a championship club - or do i stand corrected on that ?

    I cant remember how far into the season it was when he took over - did he have substantial time to turn things around there?


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    I can't recall how much money he spent but I think he took over after they had lost their first 4 games of the season with Quinn in temporary charge.

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    I cud well be wrong on the money things
    Just remember back then I thought his Promotion with sunderland was overhyped as he had other factors on his side


    Looks like were playing Slovenia in Dublin on Nov 15th - decent enough opposition i suppose
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    Guus Hiddink is definitely out of the running, according to that Examiner piece, although no indication as to how they know exactly. Can it be assumed the FAI/Houghton and Dokter were in touch with him then and he declined?

    Wasn't aware Mark Kennedy was a coach at Ipswich now either.

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    Personally (and sadly) don't think there's any current Irishman (who's available/willing) good enough.
    Mick would almost be as bad a choice as RMK IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosby87 View Post
    Never heard of Soundcloud before BOTN. Thought i had heard all of it all internet wise...obviously not.
    id never doubt ur techno savy awareness crosby


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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Personally (and sadly) don't think there's any current Irishman (who's available/willing) good enough.
    Mick would almost be as bad a choice as RMK IMO.
    I'd agree. A huge step backwards.

    His previous era in charge over the course of 2 world cups and 1 and a half European Championships was generally a barren period with some good players minus the obvious exception of the 2002 World Cup whereby we qualified I believe thanks to individual player performances rather than any tactical astuteness on his part.

    In fact even in that qualification campaign his management seemed often to hamper us rather than help us, the loss of the 2 goals lead against Holland away, the defensive performances away to Iran and home to Holland and Portugal, his insistence to play Kilbane instead of the immensely more talented Duff is another overriding memory. His loyalty to the likes of David Connolly who was a passenger in almost every game he played when Clinton Morrison was a clearly better option.

    The opening few games of the 2204 Euro qualification were also painful to watch and left Kerr with a mountain to climb for the rest of the campaign.

    Hopefully the FAI have somebody else in their sites that we have yet to hear about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by youngirish View Post
    His previous era in charge over the course of 2 world cups and 1 and a half European Championships was a very barren period with some good players minus obviously the 2002 World Cup whereby we qualified I believe thanks to individual player performances rather than any tactical astuteness.
    Very barren in contrast to what though? We've never been regular finals qualifiers.

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    We had been during the Charlton era before he took over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngirish View Post
    We had been during the Charlton era before he took over.
    Three out of a possible five is undoubtedly a better record than one out of a possible three, although the Charlton era was a deviation from the norm. Our qualification record throughout our history has been fairly barren. How would Charlton have fared had he continued managing through McCarthy's years? McCarthy was left with an ageing side and had to re-build almost from scratch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by youngirish View Post
    I'd agree. A huge step backwards.

    His previous era in charge over the course of 2 world cups and 1 and a half European Championships was generally a barren period with some good players minus the obvious exception of the 2002 World Cup whereby we qualified I believe thanks to individual player performances rather than any tactical astuteness on his part.

    In fact even in that qualification campaign his management seemed often to hamper us rather than help us, the loss of the 2 goals lead against Holland away, the defensive performances away to Iran and home to Holland and Portugal, his insistence to play Kilbane instead of the immensely more talented Duff is another overriding memory. His loyalty to the likes of David Connolly who was a passenger in almost every game he played when Clinton Morrison was a clearly better option.

    The opening few games of the 2204 Euro qualification were also painful to watch and left Kerr with a mountain to climb for the rest of the campaign.
    Hopefully the FAI have somebody else in their sites that we have yet to hear about.
    I don't know how you managed to construe that overriding memory but it was McAteer who had Duff's place not Kilbane. Whenever Duff was used in the 2002 qualifiers, from our 2nd game onwards, he replaced McAteer, except in the home game against Holland where Duff and him played together. Duff was injured after that for the last game and for the play offs. Duff started in the first friendly in 2002 - got injured, in the next friendly against Denmark, Duff was the star.
    After Mick left, Kerr used both Kilbane and Duff together.

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    If memory serves correct...mick put duff upfront against the dutch...I think...with kilbane and mcateer on the wings

    Also under kerr, kilbane was put in centre mid alot allowing duff to play on the left I thought

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    Duff was upfront against the Dutch
    Always Kerr played Kilbane.

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    Mick swerved the question when asked on the FLS earlier...

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    The silence is deafening, does anyone including the FAI and the two muppets in charge of headhunting, know when the new manager will take over and who it will be?

    It's turning into a Father Ted episode.

    Last thing we need is that glorified pub team manager, as caretaker again.

    Clueless!

    Get it sorted FFS!

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    O'Neill seems to be the favoured choice but is now under pressure to commit. If he doesn't then it'll be Mick. That's what The Examiner seems to be saying. I reckon we're going to know a lot more by the end of the week.

    I'm not convinced either will have us playing the type of football that even 3rd tier teams seem capable of playing these days, but I think both will bring some order and discipline back and will favour a gameplan that centres around what we do when we have the ball rather than being overly dependent on how we are without the ball.

    Whatever people like the doc think of Noel King, I think King's starting point of a fluent 4231 and trusting the players to play it out from the back if that's what they feel is appropriate is the right place to be starting from. I didn't like the balance of King's selections but the principle was broadly right.

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