Owen Coyle's promotion to the Premier League with Burnley is his biggest achievement to date. Roy Keane's promotion to the Premier League with Sunderland is his biggest achievement. While I think Coyle is a better manager and candidate for the job, ridiculing Keane on one hand and subsequently praising Coyle on the other is not all that balanced a way to look at it.Originally Posted by hunt4the
you had me up until this, McLeish shouldn't be allowed near the Ireland job, or any football job for that matter, after the debacle at Villa
Sorry Tets, I should have put a funny face on to show sarcasm - I thought it was obvious (maybe only to me) when I put in about the death threats without specifiying from whom.
I would be happy enough for Tardelli to have a shot at it
Bring Back Belfast Celtic F.C.
Because he'd win back the dressing room that has been lost while he was in a position of authority?
Roy Keane. I'll keep on saying it.
Not sure about Magath. Has the reputation of a hard-ass and falls out with a lot of players.
Rangnick left Schalke in Sept 2011 citing health reasons, but has since took up a job as a director of football at Salzburg
It depends when they choose to appoint a new manager. If they have someone specifically lined up (I doubt that very much) then that would surely be McCarthy. If they wait then it could be anyone of 30 different names.
I stand over any of these nominations for exactly the reason that no-one else wants them and they'll have to pull up trees in the job before anyone else would.* We're likely going to be shopping for a manager like Neil Warnock shops for players ...whatevers left in the bargain bin when it's been well picked over. Incidently I think they're all reasonably competent individuals who'd do at least as well/poorly as GT for probably a fraction of the cost. I think they'd all research the squad and potential enhancments thereof with due diligence and greater enthusiasm as well.
*When Alex McLeish quit Scotland for Birmingham his salary jumped 1000%. That kind of lure is always going to be there with any half employable manager who does well enough for us (assuming the salary has to go back to pre-Trap levels -which was still quite high by International managment standards) to attract the attention of prem/championship club.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
Trap has made mistakes in the past year, but i think over the 2 campaigns we have learned that the template of a manager who the players have heard enough about to respect, but aren't overly familiar with has worked well.
Though I do think that we should really be looking for someone who speaks very good English, and there's no point bringing in a Spaniard to try to teach Glenn Whelan and Richard Dunne tica taka. Perhaps someone like Rangnick or Eric Gerets would be good
Bring Back Belfast Celtic F.C.
I would say it is a safe bet that the FAI will appoint what they consider the opposite of Trapatonni. That will almost certainly rule out a non Irish or UK manager not associated with English football. Must be unemployed ex-manager(McCarthy, O'Leary, Keane, Daglish, Souness, Coyle, Redknapp, McLeish, Curbishley) or soon to be unemployed/out of contract( solskjaer, bilic,-- Hughton and Hughes if results don't improve). Realistically it still looks to me between McCarthy and O'Leary. But if O'Brien (and others) stump up the money the Redknapp will be a serious contender.
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Why bother? No-one serious will listen...
I think your instinct is right, they will choose somebody who is seen as the polar opposite of Trap, so probably a relatively young manager. The more I think about it, though, the more I'm afraid DOB will dig his heels in and refuse to pay Trap off.
You might well be right. I'd say that's what the press conference was mostly about today. Trapatonni playing hardball and wanting his money in full. Nobody other than probably Delaney and O'Brien and one or two others know exactly what deal was originally agreed/what transpired with the last contract before the Euros and what deal is being discussed now (if any).
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I honestly don't think Trap is motivated by money. I think it's a pride issue and he sees his salary as validation of how good he is.
He won game set and match against Delaney the last time. Manipulated the news conferences and media interviews close to the end of his first contract telling everyone about the unnamed teams head hunting him.
Arrogance then...?
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Well there are dozens of clubs who would sign him in an instant if he was free from his Ireland contract. I agree with you though that he never had any intention of going back to club management.
Yep.
Magath was drummed out of Eintracht for pushing the players too hard, certain players started leaking stories about disharmony in the camp and he was gone. The real fact was that he inspired a whole raft of players but a certain clique wanted the former coach (Berger) back as he let them do what they wanted. Magath wouldn't take the Irish job as he knows what would happen.
Bilic would only take the job if Pat Devlin, Eamon Collins etc gave him a cut of transfers and any decent coach would run from the Irish job. If the meeja get their way and Trap goes, it'll be an Irish person who comes in to take over and we can start a "Countdown to Disaster" thread that the INM folks and other meeja trolls can check out from time to time until the new man is gone. And the obvious will be avoided - structures at home. It's cannon fodder to slam JD about his salary, or LOI clubs about finances or the LOI, but it would be a long, long day that our meeja would ever dissect football structures in the country and their own role in it's disintegration.
Another day, another meeja post.
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