Sorry saw it on the internet. Chelsea sorry Roman is fairly mad but the question is would he be mad enough to appoint Woy to steady the ship? I am 50/50 myself on it. I think Terry and Co would be happy as Woy is English and would get the defence going and steady the ship though the choppy waters it's going through.
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Some concrete stuff there.
The Milan Barca match was fantastic last night. I was very impressed with Milan. Their workrate was excellent and really tried to get at Barca whenever they could. I thought the penalty for Barca was harsh but they deserved to win overall. Kevin-Prince Boateng was a lot better than I remember him being at Portsmouth! His goal was different class and was a real handful all night. Pato was very disappointing.
Chelsea and Valencia should be a cracker in two weeks time. It basically like a second leg after the first leg finishing 1-1, the only difference being that 1-1 will do Valencia to qualify instead of extra time.
Man United have put themselves in an awkward spot. Basel is a tough place to go but they should get, at least, the point they need. Finishing second would make the draw for the last 16 very interesting, but saying that they could get lucky and draw APOEL or Leverkusen too.
It was a fantastic match, I was also impressed with Milan. Both teams played to an utter standstill in injury time.
Some winner for Barca though.
Right now I'd vote for a Barca v Milan final, as the most likely to be a spectacle.
I was impressed with Leverkusen's football last night, I'd back them to beat Man U.Man United have put themselves in an awkward spot. Basel is a tough place to go but they should get, at least, the point they need. Finishing second would make the draw for the last 16 very interesting, but saying that they could get lucky and draw APOEL or Leverkusen too.
I think a Bayern Barcelona final would be fascinating also. With the final being in Munich, they might be the best equipped to beat them.
I wouldn't rule it out by any means but it could be a different United by February. I just meant they could still get a relatively favourable draw even if they finish second i.e. avoid Barcelona, Real, Bayern, etc.
I thought the pen was a bit soft too, also for Boateng's goal there is no disputing it was great skill and well hit shot, but Valdez seems to be beaten at his near post yet again in the Champions League.
There are some good matches, in effect knockouts, next time. As well as Chelsea against Valencia there is Porto v Zenit; if Porto win they go through otherwise Zenit go through. Lille v Trabzonspor is similar, whoever wins progresses, a draw would favour Trabzonspor, but if it is a draw and CSKA go to Inter Milan (already through) and win then CSKA will go through.
Yeah speaking off the cuff a little bit here, but there seems to be a lot more groups going down to Match Day 6 than the last few seasons. If Manchester City can overcome Bayern I would give them a decent chance of going through as well. I don't think they'll get anything easy off them though, even if Bayern are already qualified. I really didn't expect Villarreal to give such a poor account of themselves and there might just be one big result in them. They're going poorly in La Liga also though and seem to be without a few key players.
I'd like to see Zenit advance against Porto, they seemed to do everything but score against Apoel last night. Peter Collins even compared it to our own result in Russia! I could see Olympiakos taking the final spot in Arsenal's group. They should definitely overcome Arsenal's Carling Cup team and Marseille could find it difficult to win in Dortmund.
Yeah, you have a point about Valdes being beaten at his near post but I wouldn't be too harsh on him. The little bit of skill from Boateng caught everybody a bit off guard and the shot was well struck from fairly close range. I'm sure goalkeeping coaches the world over would disagree with me though.
Boateng's shot was a perfectly struck thunderbolt.
Poor old AVB is now the most overhyped manager according to Eamo Dunphy! Got to laugh at Eamo for sharing these perils of wisdom just a pity he didn't make this call during the summer as opposed to when AVB is going through a sticky patch. Had an excellent season last season and some need to realise that football isn't all about the premiership. Seems to me he is a good young manager making his way who wants to give everything to do well. Hopefully he will be given the time to do so.
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It's feels strange agreeing with you Rafa, but I was thinking the exact same thing when Dunphy was banging on about him the other night. I think he should be given time also, there are a lot of has-beens at Chelsea and he should be given a chance to build his own side. Probably won't happen though and a negative result against Valencia could be fatal for him, even if he doesn't get the bullet immediately.
Just another few points on some of the pundits around at the moment...
Ronnie Whelan is so miserable and has the worst speaking voice imaginable. About ten minutes into the second half of the 1st Leg of the Estonia match he was ranting and raving about what a poor Irish performance it had been, and that it looked like the Estonian's were the ones playing with the eleven men (as if they were laying siege on our goal). They had one good shot from way out in the first half and one dangerous ball into the box that was deflected wide in the second half. By full time he was going on about what a wonderful professional job the lads had done.
Gary Gillespie just sits there sprawled out like Joe Brolly and says nothing at all of interest... Ray Houghton over analyses the hell out of everything and is just as negative as Whelan. I turn the TV down to less annoying levels when he's about.
Mark Lawrenson I just want to strangle the second he opens his mouth. A couple of weeks ago he was doing the Arsenal-Marseille match and he started going on about how Vermaelen should be captain instead of Van Persie, just let Van Persie get on with scoring goals. Can you imagine Wenger stripping the captaincy off RVP for no reason at all, in the form of his life and the club are trying to get him to sign a new contract in the summer. There might have been some tiny logic to it if Van Persie's form seemed to have dipped due to the pressure of the captaincy.
Literally two minutes later he started talking about Marseille manager Didier Deschamps and how he's supposed to be a great motivator. He said that he heard that France's 1998 World Cup success was put down to Deschamps incredible speech at half time of the final....my God, they were up 2-0 by then. In fairness, if he's going to engage in telling apocryphal stories, they could at least make sense.
Possibility that only Arsenal of the English teams will make the knock out phase. Who would have thought that a month or so ago? That would certainly kill Sky's ratings and indeed Laughing Bill with Waldorf and Statler.
Still of course possible that all 4 will go through. Man U in Basle the best bet provided that Rooney is fit.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Apparently he's back for the Newcastle match tomorrow. I presume Vidic will be back from suspension also which will be huge, possibly an even bigger factor than Rooney. I suppose Chelsea would still be favourites to go through at the Bridge but it could be a tense night for them.
So CSKA and Zenit are both in the CL latter stages. The bulk of the Russian team we played over the two matches - keepers Akinfeev and Malafeev, defenders such as Ignashevitch, the Berezuitskii twins, the whole Zenit midfield (Denisov, Shirokov, Bystrov, Fayzulyn, Zyrianov), Dzagoev, and the Zenit strikers Kerzakhov and Bukharov have all heavily featured in these teams runs - I think we can say that out result in Moscow was against a top international team.
Very strange goings on in the Zagreb - Lyonnais and Ajax - Real matches.
I guess we won't see Man U beating Barca this season.
I picked the wrong match to watch last night - Porto waddle their way against Zenit.
Benfica look the better team from Portugal, just that bit more clinical up front.
Basel had a good night in the mud. Shaqiri looks like he can make the step up from the star u21 player at the Euros to a class senior footballer. It's a good sign for the Swiss league that one of their clubs could hold onto him this long.
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