QuoteNo, he's right.
They were referring to a, er, crowd....
Sorry to be pedantic, but shouldn't that be 'cue'?Originally Posted by BonnieShels
No, he's right.
They were referring to a, er, crowd....
Stuck out in Portugal, was flicking through the hotel TV stations last night in search of the draw - not one Iberian station showing it. Not ever Eurosport had it (some tennis match instead). So only just saw it.
My first reaction is it ain't that bad. Tough sure, could've been better but could've been a lot worse. We're looking at second place but it certainly isn't beyond us and there's points up for grabs against all those teams, even if Germany will almost cetainly top the group. The Kazakh trip is tricky but we really should be looking for six points, they're record and ability holds no fear. Austria are a decent side but their away form is poor and, realistically, they're they type of side any rightful qualifier should be beating.
Sweden are the main worry though, but I'm more confident of getting a decent result. The Euro group they're currently in, Holland withstanding, isn't very tough and I think we have a decent shout of taking points off them. They don't appear to be a dissimilar side to ourselves.
I think part of the prediction problem is we as yet are unsure of what we're capable of - September should go some way to figuring that out.
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Sweden are a moderate enough side, pretty similiar to us. Austria on their day, can be very dangerous. We'll be fighting with them for progression.
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Germany were the 3rd best side in the draw but I still think we could pick up points against em. Germany are a great counter attacking side but we defend as a unit and if we could have the away game towards the end of the campaign when the Germans have already qualified then maybe they'll go easy on us!
Sweden will be tough but 4 points isn't out the question. The same goes for Austria - the aim must be 4 points (unless we can turn draws into wins against the better sides). Let us be realistic, we are playing for 2nd but it can be done.
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You'll NEVER beat the Irish.......you'll just draw with us instead!!!
No we dont play upto the stereotypes at all!!!!! - just look for that infamous Foster and Allen vid on top of the pops dressed as lepracauns (seems to be hard to find now on u tube - wonder did they makes some noise about it!)I should hope not. The joke's been done to death, seems to completely miss the satirical point behind the character's creation in that it perpetuates the ignorance of the Western world Sacha Baron Cohen was obviously ridiculing and is undeniably insulting/racist. I cringe when I hear people still going on about it with any mention of Kazakhstan just in the same way I cringe when I see things like this:
Anyway...
A result like this would be very welcome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHREV8xmgV4
Does anyone remember the game under Giles management when we beat Germany B 1-0 at Dalymount? Last minute goal.
I thought borat did play the local political rivalry and references DI? Such as Uzbekistan, as it has lost some land to that country in the past and the relationship between the two is quite frosty. However this could have been a smart ploy by cohen, for those who would then go and research this. It gives credencnde to his overall approach about them being anti-semitic etc etc.
What you have to remember is he is jewish, his running theme under any character has always been slightly anti-semitic. He does this because he is jewish and he can get away with it. And also because a lot of people are rather cynical and sceptical about jews.
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I think it is a tough group, I realise we are probably capable of nicking a point off Germany or perhaps beating Sweden but we will be aiming for the playoffs id say. Austria wont be easy, but at least there is the hope they could hamstring the Gremans or Sweeds at some stage, which could turn out to make it all very interesting.
Its a draw which has really got me looking forward to the campaing also though, interesting fixtures, and the return of Kerr will be an occasion.
Or even this:
What a day.
Our competitive record against Germany is actually more impressive than our most recent competitive record against Austria. In fact we've lost to Austria the last four times we've played them; twice in 1995 and twice in 1971.
I was assuming EG would resurrect himself and you would have to wait in line.
Damn pedantry. Nothing worse than a pedant getting corrected by a pedant.
Were you at this one? Ireland v Germany 1936.
In those days you could try to engage the goalie with an uppercut.
I remember watching Borat (in a packed cinema in Split) and one thing I wondered was - is he making the Jewish jokes to show up bias or for a gag, or he actually trying to draw people into making comments that suit his own bias? I think Borat is his best invention, mainly because, as you said, he shows ignorance of other countries.
I think the whole draw is a fix, they can control which numbers come out, and FIFA are certainly a totally corrupt organisation.
Montenegro are a team with an artificially high ranking an are being used a stepping stone for an easy England qualification.
No surprise Montenegro are also in England's Euro qualifying group.
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Ridiculous conspiracy theory tricky. Just the luck of the draw. They got tough 3rd and 4th seeds.
Indeed corrupt, but they don't draw "numbers" like from a computer or something; they draw balls from pots. Why would they want to give England in particular an easy group anyway?
I agree. Although his most singular-tricked of ponies certainly had his moments..
Their sly pitting of Spain against France hasn't fooled you!
You'll never guess what.
Really??
They're in those pots for a reason....
"tough 3rd and 4th seeds is a contradiction in terms, I am sure it is rigged, how come we always get a tough draw?
The chances of us getting a tough draw and England getting a weak one are pretty staggering.
Add to that the fact we had Montenegro in our group when as the 5th team when clearly they were a 3rd tier team.
Anyway I did not see the draw untill now, here is part of it, it is obviously so rigged it is a joke, there is a seriously
dodgy looking bloke picking the balls out and you can see he looking at them and looking for a marked ball to pick out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K-wHl-XXR8
Also look at his long selves, even an amateur magician could slide a ball down his sleeve, and he
does not even have to do that, he can have the piece of paper already in his hand and
switch it.
Ask any amateur magician and they will tell you it is a doddle to rig a draw like that.
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