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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    I accept the point but is does gives hope for every club that some day a billionaire will come in and rescue the club from penury and challenge the Man Us, Arsenals etc for trophies. Wednesday were about to go in to administration in Division Three when Mandaric bought the club, wiped the debts and they are now back in Division Two aka Championship. Without him I don't know where they would be. Man U have bought success for years albeit from their own resources but by having a huge debt but it does give hope to others. It would have been another Man U cake walk this season, even with a relatively poor side, so the Arab money made a competition out of it and made long suffering fans happy.
    challange the arsenals for trophies would not be hard to do that..

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    Arsenal challenge but they don't win any.
    Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.

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    ...and what about when the multi-millionaires walk away, like David Murray at Rangers?

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    James Lawton agreeing with my take on things in today's independent.

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    Good luck to Man City. Family friend of mine is a season ticket holder since the 70's and has had to put up with years and years of Man U living in Manchester so he really doesn't give two flying hoots that people think they are buying the title. As he said to me recently there was once a time when Man U had the biggest spending power and spent it as such and he can't remember anyone complaining about it.
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    I see Pat Rice is retiring after 40+ years at Arsenal. I shall miss those pictures of Wenger ranting away at him about some refereeing decision and Rice sitting there impassively letting it wash all over him like some husband turning a deaf ear to the wife's moans and groans.

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    Pat Rice is not only a great Arsenal man but also a great man and football man. Not many like him around and good luck to him in his retirement.
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    Steve Bould apparently is the next shoulder for Wenger to cry(rant) on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    James Lawton agreeing with my take on things in today's independent.
    I am not sure that the choice of Blackburn by Lawton is a particularly apt choice when raging against the system in the Premiership. Jack Walker bought the title for that club by big spending on the likes of Shearer and I know a few Blackburn fans who are now paying the price of following the club at that time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    Steve Bould apparently is the next shoulder for Wenger to cry(rant) on.



    I am not sure that the choice of Blackburn by Lawton is a particularly apt choice when raging against the system in the Premiership. Jack Walker bought the title for that club by big spending on the likes of Shearer and I know a few Blackburn fans who are now paying the price of following the club at that time.
    Jack Walker spent the money on Blackburn but the hard work was done on the training pitch and in the games to win the league the season they won it and the seasons before they got promoted and finished 2nd or 3rd. Money gives you a great dig out but lets not forget it doesn't guarantee anything.

    I assume by paying the price you mean they jumped on board at that particular time as opposed to just supporting the club?
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    Well, that was an exciting finish to the season.

    Hard to know who I'd prefer to win, City's big spending mercenaries with their 250 million quid squad, or United's plucky underdogs working off a mere half of that figure*.



    *I don't really know how much either team has spent, but at a wild guess, it's a lot.

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    Football, bloody hell, to qoute Sir Alex F.

    I share your indifference osarusan but couldn't help but be gripped all afternoon. We all know what it's like not being able to score against stubborn opposition and that was quite remarkable.

    As I regularly say, I love the EPL just as much as I loathe it.

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    It's time like these I can't decide if I love football or if I hate it
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    It's time like these I can't decide if I love football or if I hate it
    Exactly, and wait when Chelsea win the CL!!!

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    That was just amazing. My only gripe is that RTE didn't have it live with no doubt George Hamilton writing City's obituary with probably 20 minutes to go. Even more spectacular (just) than Arsenal winning at Anfield in the 1980s. The crowd scenes are what made it for me. I could feel the utter despondency of the fans and then in the space of 5 minutes the utter elation. I saw some leaving with 5 minutes to go which I found bizarre since at that stage Sunderland could still equalise and City would only need a goal. Boy, are they sorry now. Joey Barton also added to the spice and despite the red mist and as he argued with the ref he still managed to take off his captain's band and hand it to one of his team mates. These sort of finishes are not that unusual, it's just that it happened to decide league title (this season Owls lead Walsall 0-1 going in to injury time and lost 2-1 and were 4-2 against Huddersfield in the 88th minute and drew 4-4).

    I loved the sight of the stunned Man U fans at the Sunderland game and Ferguson unsure of what was happening. Time for someone else to win it and who better than their neighbours with a huge support but without a title for 40+ years.

    Alas, the latest bone that the media have grabbed is that Man City will now dominate the next ten years. I read it in the papers and I heard Hansen saying it. They scraped home against one of the poorer Man U sides I can remember. I am not sure about the next 10 years.

    The other media cliche was that Man U had done this run in time and time again and they would therefore know what to do. Doh!

    One thing is sure, be prepared to see in 2032 middle aged men in City jerseys. I have met many of the Blackburn generation and so it shall continue.

    However, it was, in the words of Chris Kamara, "unbelievable Jeff".
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    That was just amazing. My only gripe is that RTE didn't have it live with no doubt George Hamilton writing City's obituary with probably 20 minutes to go. Even more spectacular (just) than Arsenal winning at Anfield in the 1980s. The crowd scenes are what made it for me. I could feel the utter despondency of the fans and then in the space of 5 minutes the utter elation. I saw some leaving with 5 minutes to go which I found bizarre since at that stage Sunderland could still equalise and City would only need a goal. Boy, are they sorry now. Joey Barton also added to the spice and despite the red mist and as he argued with the ref he still managed to take off his captain's band and hand it to one of his team mates. These sort of finishes are not that unusual, it's just that it happened to decide league title (this season Owls lead Walsall 0-1 going in to injury time and lost 2-1 and were 4-2 against Huddersfield in the 88th minute and drew 4-4).

    I loved the sight of the stunned Man U fans at the Sunderland game and Ferguson unsure of what was happening. Time for someone else to win it and who better than their neighbours with a huge support but without a title for 40+ years.

    Alas, the latest bone that the media have grabbed is that Man City will now dominate the next ten years. I read it in the papers and I heard Hansen saying it. They scraped home against one of the poorer Man U sides I can remember. I am not sure about the next 10 years.

    The other media cliche was that Man U had done this run in time and time again and they would therefore know what to do. Doh!

    One thing is sure, be prepared to see in 2032 middle aged men in City jerseys. I have met many of the Blackburn generation and so it shall continue.

    However, it was, in the words of Chris Kamara, "unbelievable Jeff".
    Yes have to admit watching Fergie and Phil Jones not knowing what was happening was funny. A real taste of their own medicine and to hear Fergie moaning about the five minutes added was even funnier. I think John Giles made reference to it on the Premiership later that night. Congrats to City for winning the title in the end. Incredible to think Man U and Fergie blew such a lead of 8 points.
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    Were they 8 clear with same number of games played?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Were they 8 clear with same number of games played?
    8 up with 6 to play each I think.
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    These are three stills I took from the TV and they say everything about what life as a fan is:

    First one, Man CIty fan with his back to us belts his seat in utter frustration with his scarf as the score is 2-2 but QPR win a throw deep in injury time:

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    Second one he watches (bottom left) as Aguero closes in on goal:

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    And then the winning goal is scored !!

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    I get emotional watching it to be honest. Could there be a greater high in the world than those few seconds for that fan?
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    I see Man U have finally let Michael Owen go. Bar the Man City goal i can't remember anything of note during his time there. He could end up at Everton.
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    I agree totally Owls fan, that kind of exhiliration can only really be known to football fans. And for fans of lesser teams and countries it's even sweeter. I wonder how that moment stacked up against Dickov's late late equaliser against Gillingham? Can you quantify euphoria?

    I still stand by my point though. Arsenal didn't buy success in 1988/9 - they bored their way to success! - and the drama and exhilaration was just as intense. There was no illicitly gained Russian oligarch or sovereign wealth money in the game back then, but the drama was just as great.

    And applauding a sovereign oil state with absolutely no previous attachment whatsoever to City for buying this moment for their fans is like thanking Bertie Ahearn or Anglo Irish for helping you buy your first house in 2006. Getting the keys must have been a great feeling, but that doesn't mean it was the right thing to do either in the long run or for the consequences it had on the whole system.
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