LOI matches weekending 16/7/2011

**Lim till i die** · 18/07/2011, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by noddy102

This referring to the UCD team that just beat Villareal or the Drogheda team that was a whisker away from a draw with Rovers. Both are continually improving sides. Only Galway are stinking garbage and only Shels, in my opinion, would be good enough to beat any other Premier teams consistently.

A few money grabbers and you think your Man City

An underachieving shambles in blue forever in the shadow of our more illustrious cross city neighbours in red?? We've been Man City for feckin years.

The Premier Division has some rubbish knocking around it. Being of "Premier Standard" is not the same as being good enough to play for a top club that's all I'm saying.

Using meaningless friendlies and one off results as a guage of anything.

Let's expand on this train of thought though, in pre season Limerick beat Dundalk 1-0 away, Bray 4-0 away and Drogheda 4-1 away.

But Rovers only beat Drogheda 1-0

Which means by your logic Limerick are probably the best team in the country.

Or maybe it's Carrick, they beat Limerick one nil and Limerick, as we've established, are a good bit better than Shamrock Rovers.

I'm so confused.

**Charlie Darwin** · 18/07/2011, 1:05 AM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

ITT: People forgetting a good third of the Premier Division is stinking garbage.

Careful now. Lots of that stinking garbage will be signing for Limerick in the coming months.

**Lim till i die** · 18/07/2011, 1:08 AM

**MeathDrog** · 18/07/2011, 2:48 AM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

An underachieving shambles in blue forever in the shadow of our more illustrious cross city neighbours in red?? We've been Man City for feckin years.

The Premier Division has some rubbish knocking around it. Being of "Premier Standard" is not the same as being good enough to play for a top club that's all I'm saying.

Using meaningless friendlies and one off results as a guage of anything.

Let's expand on this train of thought though, in pre season Limerick beat Dundalk 1-0 away, Bray 4-0 away and Drogheda 4-1 away.

But Rovers only beat Drogheda 1-0

Which means by your logic Limerick are probably the best team in the country.

Or maybe it's Carrick, they beat Limerick one nil and Limerick, as we've established, are a good bit better than Shamrock Rovers.

I'm so confused.

The Drogs comparison is way off. We are much much better now than we were at the start of the season.

**osarusan** · 18/07/2011, 2:51 AM

Originally Posted by MeathDrog

The Drogs comparison is way off.

That's his point though. You can't take one result and use it as a yardstick of how good a team is.

**marinobohs** · 18/07/2011, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by BonnieShels

Do you wanna rub him up the wrong way?
Is this what the issue is, your incessant jealousy of dfx's abilities to woo mb?

.... cant happen, have not had the necessary inocculations to let a sham near me

Still it is progress, shams used to think they were God, now it seems they have settled for the role of catholic priest instead

**dfx-** · 18/07/2011, 1:30 PM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

Still it is progress, shams used to think they were God

We have been surpassed in that role by Our Leader.

Everyone together now:

He is lord
He is lord
He has risen from the bench and he has scored
Every knee shall bow every tongue confess
Gary Twigg is lord

**marinobohs** · 18/07/2011, 2:20 PM

Originally Posted by dfx-

We have been surpassed in that role by Our Leader.

Everyone together now:

He is lord
He is lord
He has risen from the bench and he has scored
Every knee shall bow every tongue confess
Gary Twigg is lord

..... Ah cogging the old Kevin Hunt song (and that was a cog)

Imitation and all that....

**dfx-** · 18/07/2011, 3:34 PM

Imitation...or improvement..

**SkStu** · 18/07/2011, 4:08 PM

Originally Posted by dfx-

Imitation...or improvement..

even you lot loved Hunty...

**nigel-harps1954** · 18/07/2011, 4:13 PM

Originally Posted by noddy102

This referring to the UCD team that just beat Villareal or the Drogheda team that was a whisker away from a draw with Rovers. Both are continually improving sides. Only Galway are stinking garbage and only Shels, in my opinion, would be good enough to beat any other Premier teams consistently.

A few money grabbers and you think your Man City

I would tend to agree with this. Shels are a class above all the rest in the first division this season. Cork aren't anything amazing but building well and Limerick are only starting to put together a quality team with 3 or 4 good signings. Still not premier quality though.

**Lim till i die** · 18/07/2011, 4:46 PM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

I would tend to agree with this.

Which part do you agree with? The once off fixtures part or the continually improving sides part?

If Shels, Cork, Monaghan and Limerick were in the Premier there's no doubt in my mind that they would be at least lying somewhere between Bray and Galway. And therefore be "premier quality".

**dfx-** · 18/07/2011, 5:35 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

even you lot loved Hunty...

Least worst is an accolade I suppose...

**CSFShels** · 18/07/2011, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Which part do you agree with? The once off fixtures part or the continually improving sides part?

If Shels, Cork, Monaghan and Limerick were in the Premier there's no doubt in my mind that they would be at least lying somewhere between Bray and Galway. And therefore be "premier quality".

By which you mean having 6 points? Monaghan and Cork defo aren't Premier quality. We are and I'd wager that you may well be now after these signings aswell, but the likes of Monaghan and Cork are not and comparing them to other sides who are not of Premier Division quality, but have continually managed to survive because of the failings of others off the pitch is not an accurate measure.

**Lim till i die** · 19/07/2011, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by CSFShels

comparing them to other sides who are not of Premier Division quality, but have continually managed to survive because of the failings of others off the pitch is not an accurate measure.

Where did they manage to survive??

In the Premier Division.

Therefore they are of Premier standard.

People tend to have this big opinion of the Premier when good wedges of it every year (due to numerous factors like the off the pitch failings you mentioned) are pish.

That's kinda my point.

**dfx-** · 19/07/2011, 1:52 AM

From what I've seen of Waterford last season, Shels last season and Monaghan as bars for the others, they'd easily survive this season in the Premier...next season who knows.

Anyone who says otherwise hasn't seen UCD, Drogs at the start, Galway, Bray lately amongst others. They could be easily mid-table this season, as being shown nicely by Derry who didn't exactly run away with the FD last season and are very comfortable.

**hoopy** · 19/07/2011, 6:10 AM

Looking forward to playing the likes of Limerick again next season. I've no doubt they'll get better crowds once promoted than some self proclaimed 'big clubs' that are currently in the Premier division.

**WindmillWarrior** · 19/07/2011, 7:07 AM

Originally Posted by hoopy

Looking forward to playing the likes of Limerick again next season. I've no doubt they'll get better crowds once promoted than some self proclaimed 'big clubs' that are currently in the Premier division.

They will for a season or 2, till the novelty wears off. For example, look at Dundalks crowds this year.

Back on topic though, is MNS getting worse? I thought this weeks show and the coverage of this weeks games was particularly bad. How much time did they spend on the womens world cup and that clown (and no doubt friend of the show) Noel King. To quote from the Drogs mb, less MNS and more PMS!

**Jofspring** · 19/07/2011, 7:14 AM

Originally Posted by WindmillWarrior

They will for a season or 2, till the novelty wears off. For example, look at Dundalks crowds this year.

True, like all the sporting public in this country it would depend how successful we would be in the premier if we where to be promoted. If we went up and struggled the crowds would definitely be poor. Christ Munster had a few poor games and the crowds in Thomond Park dropped by ten thousand people, they got to the Magners League final and straight away it shot back up to a sell out.

The whole premier standard thing is rubbish too. The teams that get promoted will find it easier to sign a higher calibre player and this in turn will make them a higher standard and vice versa for teams that get relegated. Look how long it took Shels to get back to a very good standard not to mention how long it has taken us. As pointed out Derry in the end last season only won the first division by a small bit, haven't strenghtened that much and look where they are now.