the fact macken is more average than alan lee and couldnt score in a brothel. Nothing to do with nationality that doesnt bother me its just macken is average and not needed in our squad whereas lawrence has the potential to be a lot more than that. IF lads like martin rowlands get a call why not ?Originally Posted by barglee
Lee's best season in the Championship was 16 goals and that was the only time he scored more than 10 in that league. Macken scored 22 Championship goals in his last full season with Preston. Macken scored a total of 62 goals in his last 3 seasons before injury. I'd personally have Macken in ahead of Lee.
i reckon the fact that Macken is a premiership player and Lee is a championship player counts for a lot.
look at all the players who've done well in first division but at the end of the day arent up to it at top level.e.g. mark kennedy, david connoly......
Macken may be a premiership player but he's done nothing to suggest he can play at this level. Even Doherty has managed a goal in the league this season, and Morrison has scored before and played well for Birmingham.
Macken v Lee is all academic right now. Target men merely provide options in a Kerr world. I just want to see the latest hot property in Irish football put on the senior green.
Stephen Elliot, do your thing. Everything else can wait.
(Even Aiden McGeady. Heresy.
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And as for the subject of the thread? I'd love to see him in a 'B' squad sometime soon. Somebody else on this site suggested entering a 'B' team into this year's Unity Cup. I'd be all for that. Perhaps that 'B' team should be the subject of another thread?
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Yeah I'd love to see us start using a B team, really what are the arguments against one? It could only be a good thing.
maybe clubs would get p i s s y?
Went along to the den hoping to see Elliott, who didn't play because of injury.
From what I saw of Liam Lawrence hes slow, can't control the ball and lazy and was eventually subsituted. Hardly the making of an international player.
Fair point Davros. Was disappointed with Lawrence last night. Think Elliot has bundles of ability, despite the fact that he seems injury prone. At the end of the day, these are young lads with a lot of potential. It took the likes of Damien Duff and Stephen Carr some time before they were able to establish themselves as international-class players. Lets give them time.Macken is better than Lee/Lawrence end of.......my mackem pal says Elliott is currently better than Lawrence.....but Elliott was sold by Man.C.,due to the return to fitness........of Jon Macken
Ultimately,these are all average,glorified journeymen,so let's see how they do in terms of consistency....
With regard to Macken, he has had a good run of games in the City first team this season. Would be nice to see him getting one or two goals, starting with tomorrow!
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He's still injured so won't play tomorrow. Flood will play.
Alan Lee, the worst Irish striker I've seen since Mickey Evans. The man is awkward and completely useless, and as Plastic Paddy said, the only reason he is in the squads is because he is an option as a target man......The only thing i'd use him for is target practice! Even Gary Doherty is better than him
Macken and Elliott should definately be in the upcoming squads. A quartet of Keane, Morrison, Elliott and Macken would be much better than the $hite that Lee, Connolly and Doherty currently offer as alternatives. I think Rory Delap should also be seriously considered for a role as a centre forward, very effective at set pieces and when he drops deep.
For the future, you have Flood, McGeady, Stokes and hopefully Best to look forward to, although i'd start to call up McGeady straight away, he's beginning to get goals for Celtic, what have we to lose? I'd rather him than Lee or Connolly.
Haven't been impressed with Liam Lawerence, don't think he is good enough, or in any way better than Steven Reid or Jonathan Douglas for that matter.
I needed to highlight this. Dav, when's the last time anybody accused you of being fair? It's a bloody scandal, I tells yer...
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from what ive seen of liam lawrence looks real quality what we need on the right. Had a superb game against wolves and if he gets a good run with sunderland could get a call up maybe in feb
One fine day doesn't make a summer! Two great goals against Wolves from Lawrence, but Wolves are in a mess with players' confidence shot to pieces.......not much to write home about really. Secondly, any player who is still carrying the dyed blonde Beckham look after all these years needs to examine himselfOr get a new bird to point him the right direction!!
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Sorry Zizou, but I reckon the february game will be a warm up for Israel away, not a chance to try out new players, the next time will be the end of season friendlies in June
Just for the record...David Connolly has never been given the opportunity to play for a Premiership team.
At the end of the day, judge the player in front of you when he wears the green. Your only concern for the players club career is that he's getting his game. Really, this 'Premiership or bust' attitude really gets up my nerves sometimes.
Obviously, its better for a given player to be playing at a high level of football to hone his skills. But its certainly not the end all and be all. Better to have a fella playing regular first divsion football as opposed to Prem reserve football ala Morrison, at the moment, unfortunately.
By the way, not for a second would I consider Connolly for the current Ireland squad. His track record playing for Ireland has burnt too many bridges already!
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He is a player we should get sorted quickly hes a smashing player who gets and sets up his share of Goals and has been touted since his Mansfield days as a future International.
Anyone agree with me on Lee Carsley being one of the in form midfielders in the premiership and that he could still do a job for Ireland in the troublesome right hand side of midfield position.
He's retired, let it go!
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