Limerick Division 1A 2011/12

[abbeyvale]

Pos Team P W D L F A Pts
1 Geraldines 8 8 0 0 26 4 24
2 Pike Rvs B 8 6 1 1 29 12 19
3 Ballynanty Rvs 8 5 1 2 21 14 16
4 Shannon Hibs 8 4 2 2 18 10 14
5 Charleville 8 3 1 4 11 18 10
6 Caherconlish 8 3 1 4 10 17 10
7 Caherdavin Celtic 8 3 1 4 12 20 10
8 Shannon Town 8 2 3 3 13 11 9
9 Mungret Reg 8 2 2 4 14 12 8
10 Fairview Rgs B 8 2 1 5 10 15 7
11 Granville Rgs 8 1 2 5 13 20 5
12 Croom Utd 8 1 1 6 9 32 4


Results
Tue 13/09/11
Shannon Hibs 5-1 Croom Utd,
Mungret Reg 4-0 Caherconlish,



Fixtures
Sun 18/09/11 @ 10.30
Caherdavin Celtic v Fairview Rgs B, 10.30, T Duggan
Ballynanty Rvs v Geraldines, 10.30, K Gorman

[abbeyvale]

Have to say Shannon Hibs have been tipping away quietly and currently sit in the 2nd promotion spot 4pts clear of any challengers, its really going to be a fight for 2nd spot, cant see The Dines being caught now, as they sit 10pts clear of 2nd promotion chasing team and are 14pts clear for promotion.

Have to say that this league is crazy when you consider a team could finish 5th and still be promoted to the Prem.

My question is:
How on earth is a team that finish 5th in 1A (which is almost mid table) going to compete in the Prem the following season, considering over the past number of years teams that have finished first and second in 1A have struggled in Prem the following season.

[On The Ball]

Pos Team P W D L F A Pts
1 Geraldines 8 8 0 0 26 4 24
2 Pike Rvs B 8 6 1 1 29 12 19
3 Ballynanty Rvs 8 5 1 2 21 14 16
4 Shannon Hibs 8 4 2 2 18 10 14
5 Charleville 8 3 1 4 11 18 10
6 Caherconlish 8 3 1 4 10 17 10
7 Caherdavin Celtic 8 3 1 4 12 20 10
8 Shannon Town 8 2 3 3 13 11 9
9 Mungret Reg 8 2 2 4 14 12 8
10 Fairview Rgs B 8 2 1 5 10 15 7
11 Granville Rgs 8 1 2 5 13 20 5
12 Croom Utd 8 1 1 6 9 32 4


Results
Tue 13/09/11
Shannon Hibs 5-1 Croom Utd,
Mungret Reg 4-0 Caherconlish,



Fixtures
Sun 18/09/11 @ 10.30
Caherdavin Celtic v Fairview Rgs B, 10.30, T Duggan
Ballynanty Rvs v Geraldines, 10.30, K Gorman

Having Croom travel in from there on a tuesday game kicking off at 6.15 is madness to me.People would struggle to get there from Limerick city for 6.15 kick off.

[old git]

Having Croom travel in from there on a tuesday game kicking off at 6.15 is madness to me.People would struggle to get there from Limerick city for 6.15 kick off.

part of the madness in the limerick league fixtures but check through all divisions and you will see teams having to travel for crazy midweek fixtures you just have to grin and bear and hope you are at home. hopefully this week should see the end of midweek games.

[Hibs7772]

that is a mystery so, thanks abbeyvale

[Hibs7772]

Shannon Hibs 5-1 Croom

Goals from Brian mc Gorrrian (3), Julio and Jamie Egan.

Hibs went 1-0 down in this but even so never looked like losing to a very poor Croom team. Mc Gorrian soon leveled the scores and then soon after the break made it 2-1 and then soon after julio tapped one in from 6 yards to kill off Croom, jamie egan and brian mc gorrian adding 2 more late on for a comprehensive Hibs victory.

Croom looking very poor tho and if they continue to play like that will go down no doubt about it.

[magicman]

Have to say Shannon Hibs have been tipping away quietly and currently sit in the 2nd promotion spot 4pts clear of any challengers, its really going to be a fight for 2nd spot, cant see The Dines being caught now, as they sit 10pts clear of 2nd promotion chasing team and are 14pts clear for promotion.

Have to say that this league is crazy when you consider a team could finish 5th and still be promoted to the Prem.

My question is:
How on earth is a team that finish 5th in 1A (which is almost mid table) going to compete in the Prem the following season, considering over the past number of years teams that have finished first and second in 1A have struggled in Prem the following season.

Its a strange one but are the rules set in stone that its only one team per division? I remember a couple of years ago Corbally had a B and C team in the same division. Could be wrong but think at some stage Mungret had their B and C team in the same division too. This subject raised its head too about 5 or 6 years ago when Balla B were running away with 1A. I remember talking to some of the committee at the time and they were of the opinion it would work the same way as the Munster junior. Both teams would be considered seperate clubs and both teams would play each other on the first two games of the season. Which is all well and good in theory, but the only problem would be if a club had a C team. Who would be able to call up those players?
Its wrong to think a team who could lose as much as a third of their games could find themselves in the Premier.
Would the team who finishes 11th in the Premier have a case to play off against the highest finishing team in 1A?(assuming Pike and Balla finish 2nd and 3rd).

I suppose the LDMC are lucky that Geraldines have such a strong team this season. Can you imagine if it was a Balla and Pike 1st and 2nd!

[Roadend]

Its a strange one but are the rules set in stone that its only one team per division? I remember a couple of years ago Corbally had a B and C team in the same division. Could be wrong but think at some stage Mungret had their B and C team in the same division too. This subject raised its head too about 5 or 6 years ago when Balla B were running away with 1A. I remember talking to some of the committee at the time and they were of the opinion it would work the same way as the Munster junior. Both teams would be considered seperate clubs and both teams would play each other on the first two games of the season. Which is all well and good in theory, but the only problem would be if a club had a C team. Who would be able to call up those players?Its wrong to think a team who could lose as much as a third of their games could find themselves in the Premier.
Would the team who finishes 11th in the Premier have a case to play off against the highest finishing team in 1A?(assuming Pike and Balla finish 2nd and 3rd).

I suppose the LDMC are lucky that Geraldines have such a strong team this season. Can you imagine if it was a Balla and Pike 1st and 2nd!

C players can only go up to the A team, not the B team.

[Forever Red]

Mungret 4 - 0 Caherconlish

At last a comprehensive win our play deserved! We went won up through Des O Donoghue after good work by Brian Aherne. Missed a glorious chance to double lead. 1-0HT. Second half was easier than expected and we added two further goals from Des O Donoghue (one pen) & one from Barry Danagher. Could easily have got a couple more with play blown up a few minutes early. We are starting to creep up the table now and with the bottom three teams to play hopefully we might collect a few points - that said i suppose we were at the bottom for most of the season so far so i don't think we cant count on anything!!

[abbeyvale]

Its a strange one but are the rules set in stone that its only one team per division? I remember a couple of years ago Corbally had a B and C team in the same division. Could be wrong but think at some stage Mungret had their B and C team in the same division too. This subject raised its head too about 5 or 6 years ago when Balla B were running away with 1A. I remember talking to some of the committee at the time and they were of the opinion it would work the same way as the Munster junior. Both teams would be considered seperate clubs and both teams would play each other on the first two games of the season. Which is all well and good in theory, but the only problem would be if a club had a C team. Who would be able to call up those players?
Its wrong to think a team who could lose as much as a third of their games could find themselves in the Premier.
Would the team who finishes 11th in the Premier have a case to play off against the highest finishing team in 1A?(assuming Pike and Balla finish 2nd and 3rd).

I suppose the LDMC are lucky that Geraldines have such a strong team this season. Can you imagine if it was a Balla and Pike 1st and 2nd!

Could you imagine the 3 B teams finishing in the top 3, its a joke of a set up to be fair, and in fairness, The Boro B could easily get promoted from 1B also this season, so you could have 4 B teams in 1A next season, which effectively means Division 1A next season would become an 8 team league..............

[lankyboy26]

Barcelona's B team finished in the promotion places in the Spanish second division last season and couldn't go up. It happens everywhere is my point, not just Limerick. And fair play to teams like Fairview, Pike, Balla for having strong B teams, its a credit to those clubs. Don't know what people are giving out about. That's the way it has always been and always will be

[Hibs7772]

Barcelona's B team finished in the promotion places in the Spanish second division last season and couldn't go up. It happens everywhere is my point, not just Limerick. And fair play to teams like Fairview, Pike, Balla for having strong B teams, its a credit to those clubs. Don't know what people are giving out about. That's the way it has always been and always will be

bit of a difference between the Spanish second division and 1A in limerick hahahaha

[gaiscíoch]

Having Croom travel in from there on a tuesday game kicking off at 6.15 is madness to me.People would struggle to get there from Limerick city for 6.15 kick off.

It takes 15 minutes to get from Shannon to Annacotty via the tunnel? so if people are struggling to get from Limerick City to games in Shannon then there is something wrong.

If the 4th or 5th place team gets promoted then I honestly think they will be little more than cannon fodder for the premier teams.
From what I have seen it's been a poor standard so far.

[theboywonder8]

Pike,fairview,balla and boro should be allowed enter teams into the Lawson cup as well,they were allowed up to a few years ago until it became a one team per club comp,after all they are allowed enter the mj,can't see any reason why they shouldn't be allowed,opinions anyone?Sorry forgot to mention their b teams,

[lankyboy26]

bit of a difference between the Spanish second division and 1A in limerick hahahaha

No i think they are the same, actually the standard in Limerick would be better, especially in 1A

[Hibs7772]

No i think they are the same, actually the standard in Limerick would be better, especially in 1A

sure that goes without saying

[abbeyvale]

Lads just a thought but do ye think this would work?

At present there are 91 junior teams playing in Limerick including 3 C teams.

If the C teams were omitted from the league, and there was a few added to make 90 teams, then the following could happen.

Prem A, 1A, 2A, 3A & 4A, all consisting of 12 teams per league (A teams only)

Prem B, 1B & 2B, all consisting of 10 teams per league (B teams only)

No B team can go any higher than Prem B, which would be the highest postion within the B section.

So for arguments sake, lets say Pike B won the Prem B league, then they would be crowned Premier B champions of Limerick and teams within both sections (A & B) can get promoted and relegated without having the issue of being held back from promotion incase their A team is in the higher division etc;;;

That way B teams actually have something to play and show for their efforts for a season, instead of being held back.

All B teams should be allowed to enter all other comps shuch as MJC, FAI & Lawson also.

Like I said, its just a thought...........

[lankyboy26]

That's some good inventive thinking there Abbeyvale, but would you be guaranteed to have the exact amount of B teams each season, like what happens when clubs decide not to bother entering a B team etc. Could get messy then.

I admire players who play for their club's B team, it shows loyalty to their club, whatever about getting promotion, you can still win medals

[Zizou]

B's and A's, A's and B's, B's taking on A's and A's relegating B's... Jesus lads, lets get back to the friggin footie, eh??

[Hibs7772]

B's and A's, A's and B's, B's taking on A's and A's relegating B's... Jesus lads, lets get back to the friggin footie, eh??

agreed! its always been the way it is and will never change, just get on with it!