Limerick Division 1A 2011/12

**smellyfeet** · 09/09/2011, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by hotspur

Who's the ref in ?.is he an ex rugby ref?

Won't name him, and i don't know.

**smellyfeet** · 09/09/2011, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Dallas

If anything it definitely would not be a penalty, the keeper had the ball in his hands so the most it could have been was an indiredt freekick thats all
I thought the ref had a good game, he missed a couple of things overall which affected both teams but that happens every ref in every match so cant fault him there.
Overall a draw was a fair result shannon may have controlled possession for times during the match but mungret had their chances to 2 up and even after the equaliser had a couople of chances to score again.

Why no Free kick then, Ref made up a RULE off the top of his head, totally wrong to do so, and i stood at the dressing room watching what went on at half time with him and the subs. That should not be going on.

Was a good game but that carry on is wrong

**Second** · 09/09/2011, 11:25 AM

So Dallas what your saying is if the keeper has the ball in his hands anything goes.. What a load of crap.. If the Ref sees a player kicking another player it's a straight red and a free kick... If that free kick is inside the box it's a penalty.. Don't try defend the Ref he got it wrong

**TopperHarley** · 09/09/2011, 11:43 AM

Agree with the above...if the ref saw then its a pen all day

**old git** · 09/09/2011, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Second

I agree you can't speak to Ref like that but it was more of a "f off " you can't be serious than a personal one.. Don't tell me you never heard lads saying that out of frustration when a decision goes against them..and I'd safely say I've never seen a lad sent off so early in a match for it.. Terrible refereeing

agree with you and if ref's used a bit more common sense at times it should not be a sending off or even a booking at times.. but on the other side players should be aware now some refs will look for any excuse to book / send players off.

**smellyfeet** · 09/09/2011, 11:58 AM

I'm not trying to hammers Refs just thought that some of the actions from the Ref i saw last night were uncalled for.

The half time display was what took the biscuit, really really bad form.

Again, was a good game with some good football played. Surprised Mungert/Regional are on the lower half of the table.

**Forever Red** · 09/09/2011, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Second

So Dallas what your saying is if the keeper has the ball in his hands anything goes.. What a load of crap.. If the Ref sees a player kicking another player it's a straight red and a free kick... If that free kick is inside the box it's a penalty.. Don't try defend the Ref he got it wrong

I dont think hes saying anything goes once the keeper has it. I didnt see the incident but i dont think from what i heard the ref can give a pen. Yes i agree its a free kick (indirect). i might be wrong but i think its an indirect free kick.

**Lev Yashin** · 09/09/2011, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by Forever Red

I dont think hes saying anything goes once the keeper has it. I didnt see the incident but i dont think from what i heard the ref can give a pen. Yes i agree its a free kick (indirect). i might be wrong but i think its an indirect free kick.

An indirect freekick for a Kick on an opposition player?

No. Thats not the rules. I blatent kick is a direct freekick...an indirect freekick is only applied when the offence is unintentional. i.e accidental handball, offside and so on.

**Second** · 09/09/2011, 12:30 PM

Infairness the only thing worse than kicking or striking a player is spitting on a player.. So has to be a penalty... Indirect frees are given for unintentional ( accidental ) fouls ... But if you kick someone up the arse I'm fairly sure you know what your doing it's a red card simple as..

**TopperHarley** · 09/09/2011, 12:42 PM

100% PEN

Copyied from FIFA webpage

A direct free kick offence occurs when a player commits any of the following in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:

Kicking or attempting to kick an opponent
Tripping or attempting to trip an opponent
Jumping at an opponent
Charging an opponent
Striking or attempting to strike an opponent
Pushing an opponent
Tackling an opponent

Or commits (one of) the following offences:

Holding an opponent
Spitting at an opponent
Handling the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area).

If a direct free kick offence occurs within a team's own penalty area it becomes punishable by a penalty kick, irrespective of the position of the ball, provided the ball was in play.

**Goals4fun** · 09/09/2011, 12:44 PM

The above incident is a penalty and a red card.

the only factor the ball in the keepers hand has on it, is that the ball was in play. If the ball was not in play (throw/corner/free or keeper preparing to take a kick out) then it would not have been a penalty, but just a red card. so with the ball in play, the awarding for the foul is decided on where the incident takes place. Therefore striking an oppontent is foul play in the box = penalty and red card.

**Goals4fun** · 09/09/2011, 12:47 PM

i shud have waited writing my response, if i had know your depth of research.....

**smellyfeet** · 09/09/2011, 1:14 PM

Any rule on the ref having kick about with the subs at half time. ha ha.

Anyway, thats my question answered thanks, should have been a peno, red card and NOT a hop ball to be unchallenged.
Ref that doesn't know the rules or makes them up has no place in the game. Simple as.

**Hibs7772** · 09/09/2011, 3:49 PM

Originally Posted by Zizou

Your having a Giraffe..

dines 4-1 granville...wasnt far wrong was i

**Zizou** · 09/09/2011, 5:32 PM

Originally Posted by jenventuz

dines 4-1 granville...wasnt far wrong was i

I have nothing more to say on the matter.

**Hibs7772** · 11/09/2011, 1:50 AM

Originally Posted by Zizou

I have nothing more to say on the matter.

hahaha gas man

**Hibs7772** · 11/09/2011, 2:12 AM

predictions for sundays games:

Ballynanty Rvs 1-2 Pike Rvs
Shannon Town 0-3 Charleville
Granville Rgs 2-2 Caherdavin Celtic
Geraldines 2-0 Fairview Rgs B

**toonfanatic** · 11/09/2011, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by shannonman

Shannon Town 1 Fairview B 3

Have been debating whether to write anything on thise since i got back, my blood is still boiling but ill try and keep it civil.

The Ref showed up 15 minutes late and berated out manager because he(the ref) didn''t know where the pitch was, said he had been driving around Shannon for half an hour, made it clear while berating our manger that he wasn't going to give us anything.

13 minutes in he sends off our left winger...straight red for saying "f*ck sake", Now i know cursing is frowned upon, but if your going to send anyone who used a profanity off, well then we all know there would be no one left on the field. So now he misses three games for nothing.

Fairview Centre Half told our striker that the ref had told them that he was going to give us nothing and if they went down in the box he would give them a Pen.
Now i know this is hearsay but i'd love to know if there s a fairview player on here who could corroborate that story, because if its true its a disgrace.
To be fair to the Fairview players they didn't make a meal of anything and played the game the way it should be played.
Their second goal came straight from a free kick that wasn't a free kick and if it was it should have been ours.

All this because, HE showed up late...we have played every home game this season at Lynch park and havent had a single issue with any other Ref.

Anyway rant over.

The part about the centre half telling the striker that the ref would give ye nothing is absolute rubbish. I was one of the centre halves, spoke to the other two, and that is absolute bullsh*t. Do you honestly think a referee would tell a player on a team that?! Complete lies.
The free kick you're on about was debatable.... I agree. But there were a few others that could have been given as well.

In relation to the red card, I didnt actually see what happened to be honest. But the linesman coming on and pushing the ref, and threatening him with the flag was shocking. If what I heard is true, then it shouldnt have been a straight red. But the way some of yer players reacted later in the game with bad challenges could have warranted two or three red cards. Some terrible tackles went in.

No mention of the referee giving our player a second yellow for absolute nothing. Two players mouthing at each other, and he gives our player a second yellow. Disgraceful.

It's a pity the game ended like that because aside from the terrible behaviour of yer touchline, ye played some very good one touch football with 10 men. And yer 2 centre halves are very solid.

Good result for the View considering they were missing a good few regulars.