FAI Investigate Alleged Racist Abuse Of Zayed

**Dodge** · 14/06/2011, 6:18 PM

Originally Posted by Sean South

Can you back this up with some evidence please that only "a single Pats fan" abused him? I assume you heard "him" if you know it was only a single Pats fan and reported it to Police/Stewards or else gave him a slap yourself? Otherwise stop posting up hear say in an attempt to undermine the story

I wasn't at the game. The complaint is about one fan. There may have been more but the complaint lodges is about one fan

However many it was is too many, and I've no problem condemning any Pats fans involved. ANYBODY shouting racist abuse at anybody is a scumbag

**horton** · 14/06/2011, 6:19 PM

Originally Posted by Sean South

This article here
http://m.irishtimes.com/sports/socce...html?via=sport

Says it was a "section" of St Pats fans which would mean more then a single Pats fan

From thon article:

Speaking earlier today, a spokesperson for Rovers said no allegation had yet been put to the club by Derry or the FAI.
“We signed up for the ten-point plan on racism, we have more players from different backgrounds than any other club in the league, like Alan Mannus (Canadian-born goalkeeper), Chris Turner (Derry), Ryan Thompson (Jamaica)," said the spokesperson.

Right, so to show your multi-ethnic you highlight two players who are not from Europe I get, but why mention the fact you've someone from Derry? Unless the abuse to Zayed was "nordie" based, why include him? and despite what Finn Harps fans may say, Derry people don't have that much of a different background from those in Dublin!

**poster** · 14/06/2011, 6:22 PM

Thought Turner was from Ballymoney in Antrim?

**Aaron** · 14/06/2011, 6:22 PM

Originally Posted by horton

From thon article:

Right, so to show your multi-ethnic you highlight two players who are not from Europe I get, but why mention the fact you've someone from Derry? Unless the abuse to Zayed was "nordie" based, why include him? and despite what Finn Harps fans may say, Derry people don't have that much of a different background from those in Dublin!

Turner isnt even from Derry

**horton** · 14/06/2011, 6:25 PM

My bad. Never heard of the guy so was just going by the quote/article. Still stands though, having someone from North of the border is hardly that big of a deal!

**The Lilywhites** · 14/06/2011, 6:27 PM

Originally Posted by A face

10-25 point deduction is on the cards people are saying

If anyone thinks Rovers are going to be deducted points for this, they're kidding themselves.

The Model Club, and don't anyone forget it.

**Red Army** · 14/06/2011, 6:33 PM

I assume it will be Pats who will get the points deduced if found guilty and if Shamrock are found guilty maybe 5 or 6 game ban for the player involved like the scum bag McGuinness got?

**Jicked** · 14/06/2011, 6:40 PM

Originally Posted by A face

10-25 point deduction is on the cards people are saying, surely not, not making light of the incident or anything though. Anyone know the player involved or can it be mentioned. What does the rule book say on the whole thing?

Where did you hear anything like that? There's no chance of a points deduction anywhere near that, that'd be unprecedented across Europe. The yardstick will be Bohs/Jason McGuinness last (?) season. Club suspended him pending an investigation, found guilty and was banned for 7 or 8 games, plus possibly a financial penalty too for the player.

**Dave_SRFC** · 14/06/2011, 7:01 PM

Originally Posted by Rasputin

Racist abuse in Tallaght by Shams? Surely not?
Cant wait to see the latest FAI investigation to exonerate the model club.

Sap...

**Cuyahoga** · 14/06/2011, 7:39 PM

Originally Posted by Dave_SRFC

Sap...

My thoughts exactly !

**Dodge** · 14/06/2011, 7:48 PM

No club will be docked points. If it's fans, it'll be a fine.

If it's a player it'll be a ban and a fine

Just like clubs can't be docked points for players for viciously assaulting another on the pitch, they can't be docked points for verbally abusing another (however wrong it is)

**Jicked** · 14/06/2011, 7:57 PM

Originally Posted by horton

From thon article:

Right, so to show your multi-ethnic you highlight two players who are not from Europe I get, but why mention the fact you've someone from Derry? Unless the abuse to Zayed was "nordie" based, why include him? and despite what Finn Harps fans may say, Derry people don't have that much of a different background from those in Dublin!

I think they're trying to draw attention to the fact Turner might not be of the same, erm, ahem, political background, as erm, some in the League of Ireland. He and Mannus in particular have gotten dogs abuse about it in the past unfortunately.

**hoopy** · 14/06/2011, 8:07 PM

'Racial abuse' to me has always meant someone receiving unwanted comments over their skin colour or religion. It's scandalous for anyone to have to put up with that. But is calling someone 'you dublin junkie', or 'you effin redneck' or 'you (enter City here) c***' regarded as 'racial abuse'? I haven't a clue what went on last night but seeing as Zayed isn't black I'm assuming if someone did say something to him it had to be along the lines of 'you Libyan so and so',even though he was born in Dublin. It's the only thing I can think of what was allegedly said. If this is what was said is it 'racial abuse'? Gary Twigg's called a 'Scottish c***' by opposition fans(and by an opposition manager a few weeks back), is this 'racial abuse'?

**CSFShels** · 14/06/2011, 8:28 PM

Originally Posted by hoopy

'Racial abuse' to me has always meant someone receiving unwanted comments over their skin colour or religion. It's scandalous for anyone to have to put up with that. But is calling someone 'you dublin junkie', or 'you effin redneck' or 'you (enter City here) c***' regarded as 'racial abuse'? I haven't a clue what went on last night but seeing as Zayed isn't black I'm assuming if someone did say something to him it had to be along the lines of 'you Libyan so and so',even though he was born in Dublin. It's the only thing I can think of what was allegedly said. If this is what was said is it 'racial abuse'? Gary Twigg's called a 'Scottish c***' by opposition fans(and by an opposition manager a few weeks back), is this 'racial abuse'?

I'm gonna guess that the ignorant terminology used was calling him a slang term for a Pakistani

**hoopy** · 14/06/2011, 8:36 PM

Originally Posted by CSFShels

I'm gonna guess that the ignorant terminology used was calling him a slang term for a Pakistani

I get ya. Don't know why someone would call him that or if he's been called that before. Some people are just stupid.

**CSFShels** · 14/06/2011, 8:45 PM

Originally Posted by hoopy

I get ya. Don't know why someone would call him that or if he's been called that before. Some people are just stupid.

Yeah but the ignorance in the terminology pretty much matches the ignorance of actually doing something like that. It sounds like the only thing that could have been realistically said other than the n word, which is probably too ridiculous to be true.

**PartySaint** · 14/06/2011, 8:55 PM

Jaysus judging by some of the posts here we have already been proven guilty of this, Can we wait and see what the investigation says before some people start making ridiculous comments about some clubs and their players/fans

**outspoken** · 14/06/2011, 8:56 PM

I suppose this will be all over the national media tomorrow just like when the walk in the carlise collapsed the 2nd time their was a 2 page spread in the Irish Independant basically saying LOI grounds wernt safe, don't you just love how the Irish media work.