FAI Investigate Alleged Racist Abuse Of Zayed

**SkStu** · 09/07/2011, 4:01 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

But if there's no corroborating evidence then it's just one man's word over another and any positive ruling from the FAI would have serious legal implications.

Originally Posted by SkStu

most trials are one persons word against another. In cases where it is one persons word against another (e.g. rape) other evidence (including things such as believability and character) can lead to a court finding someone guilty. No legal implications whatsoever provided the FAI investigation is conducted fairly and properly.

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Well what I mean is that the FAI is (in a sense) a media organisation and they have no more a right than the Evening Herald to make definitive judgements based on two people's contrasting stories.

Originally Posted by SkStu

no way CD. Do you really believe that?!

willing to concede on that point now CD?

**dfx-** · 09/07/2011, 4:22 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

FFS Rovers fans, forgetting about whatever was said or not said for a second, instead of acting put out by all this and coming across as vindicated and victimised, you need to ask yourselves the tough questions like what is the value of having a complete scuzzball like Chris Turner (whose moral fibre is non-existent) at your club and being banned for 3 important games of the season.

Time to get real lads and start asking the right questions. Who is going to step up within your ranks and be that person?

Oh Please

Moral fibre, value of a player scoring winners in semifinals etc..if you weren't such a Bohs fan, I'd be questioning had you taken the wrong tablets today, Sk

**dcfc_1928** · 09/07/2011, 4:29 PM

**SkStu** · 09/07/2011, 4:41 PM

Originally Posted by dfx-

Oh Please

Moral fibre, value of a player scoring winners in semifinals etc..if you weren't such a Bohs fan, I'd be questioning had you taken the wrong tablets today, Sk

"Carry On... Regardless" Rovers fans.. I dont give a sh!t.

Frame my post whatever way you want to make yourself feel better but they are the questions you should be asking yourselves today.

**Charlie Darwin** · 09/07/2011, 5:06 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

willing to concede on that point now CD?

Well I think the verdict fits with what I was saying: the FAI couldn't get enough evidence to rule he'd made a racist comment but did decide he said something less serious. I have no idea how the hearing actually went down: it could have been that Zayed said Turner called him X and Turner replied that he actually said Y, and the FAI punished him for saying Y.

Algebra.

**dfx-** · 09/07/2011, 5:16 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

Frame my post whatever way you want to make yourself feel better but they are the questions you should be asking yourselves today.

Spare the moral fibre tripe. The questions being asked about Turner will be whether he's good enough to start ahead of Rice McCormack Finn or O'Donnell. He'll be judged on the pitch.

**sullanefc** · 09/07/2011, 5:34 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

FFS Rovers fans, forgetting about whatever was said or not said for a second, instead of acting put out by all this and coming across as vindicated and victimised, you need to ask yourselves the tough questions like what is the value of having a complete scuzzball like Chris Turner (whose moral fibre is non-existent) at your club and being banned for 3 important games of the season.

Time to get real lads and start asking the right questions. Who is going to step up within your ranks and be that person?

Good post. It is obvious at this stage that Shamrock (Management/Players/Fans etc) can do no wrong in the eyes of Shamrock fans. Even the most odious of behavior will be defended by them and they will then profess to be the "model club".

Originally Posted by dfx-

Spare the moral fibre tripe. The questions being asked about Turner will be whether he's good enough to start ahead of Rice McCormack Finn or O'Donnell. He'll be judged on the pitch.

It comes as no surprise to myself (and probably the majority on here) that morals are a long way down the list on Shamrock's priorities.

**nzamcdza** · 09/07/2011, 5:49 PM

Glad to see that Turner was found guilty of the racist abuse. It came as no surprise once we heard who it was who made the comments. They guy is a complete scumbag and I would hate to have him at my club.

Only sad thing is that it is only 3 games. If Rovers had any class they would have some sort of internal punishment on top of the FAI one but I wouldnt hold my breath.

**HulaHoop** · 09/07/2011, 5:49 PM

Only one party found guilty of racial abuse yet there isn't a word about them from the usual suspects on here, the focus is entirely on Shamrock Rovers. Funny that but not surprising.

**HulaHoop** · 09/07/2011, 5:54 PM

Originally Posted by nzamcdza

Glad to see that Turner was found guilty of the racist abuse.

He hasn't been found guilty of racist abust, he's been found guilty of saying something offensive to Zayed that wasn't construed to be racist by the disciplinary committee of the FAI. That's the fact no matter how much you don't want it to be true.

**DannyInvincible** · 09/07/2011, 5:54 PM

Originally Posted by sullanefc

It comes as no surprise to myself (and probably the majority on here) that morals are a long way down the list on Shamrock's priorities.

I think you're getting mixed up, sullane. Nobody claimed Rovers were the moral club; everyone knows Rovers are the model club.

**dfx-** · 09/07/2011, 5:55 PM

Originally Posted by nzamcdza

Glad to see that Turner was found guilty of the racist abuse. It came as no surprise once we heard who it was who made the comments.

Except he wasn't..

**Hibs4Ever** · 09/07/2011, 6:10 PM

Originally Posted by Jicked

What did you think about St Pats fans being found guilty of racist abuse?

I think the ONE fan who done it, even though he came forward the next day admitting it, should definitely be further punished by the club

**Jicked** · 09/07/2011, 6:16 PM

Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever

I think the ONE fan who done it, even though he came forward the next day admitting it, should definitely be further punished by the club

ONE fan? The FAI clearly stated it was a (albeit small) number of supporters?

**Hibs4Ever** · 09/07/2011, 6:23 PM

Originally Posted by Jicked

ONE fan? The FAI clearly stated it was a (albeit small) number of supporters?

Yep, it was one fan. The FAI also clearly state that in the recent racism allegations made by Zayed, Turner has been found guilty and recieved a ban. Do you think SRFC should take further action for the embarrassment he's caused your club?

**Charlie Darwin** · 09/07/2011, 6:27 PM

The FAI should have just released a short statement saying: "Believe whatever you want."

**Jicked** · 09/07/2011, 6:27 PM

Why did the FAI say there was multiple fans involved?

Terrific bit of wording there to make it seem like he's been found guilty of making racist comments. But no, I don't think we should take further actions, despite SkStu's fantastic post on the previous page.

**bluewhitearmy** · 09/07/2011, 6:30 PM

Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever

I think the ONE fan who done it, even though he came forward the next day admitting it, should definitely be further punished by the club

Id find ONE fan racially abusing someone worse then ONE player saying something offensive.

Most people were telling Rovers fans to wait and see what came from the investigation before calling Zayed a liar now that the investigation has said that Turners comment whatever he said was not racist they are ignoring it.

**dfx-** · 09/07/2011, 6:31 PM

Originally Posted by Hibs4Ever

Unsurprising to see Shams fans defending the scumbag. Player and club are a perfect match

Defending him against what exactly?

**sundance kid** · 09/07/2011, 6:37 PM

I'd say Turner is a relieved man that it was an offensive comment and not a racist comment he got banned for. Jason McGuinness has said that the punishment of having to sign for Sligo because of his indiscretion was too high a price to pay.